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#186920 by HannahsDad Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:29 pm
Jarsan Plant Sales Ltd at http://jarsan-machinery.com

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That first tractor has been offered for sale SO MANY times, on so many sites, and SO CHEAP!

Jarsan Plant Sales LTD was established in 2004 and is still a successful; family owned and operated business. We have gained and maintain a reliable reputation for supporting the interests of both our purchases and customers: providing mechanically sound machines, meeting the needs of our clients, paying attention to detail and continually striving to deliver quality business.

Jarsan Plant Sales LTD have the contacts and experience to source and place used machines throughout the UK and worldwide at a highly competitive price. We stock a large variety of plant and are also interested in part exchanging or simply purchasing any second hand plant or machinery you might have to offer.

The number one aim of Jarsan Plant Sales LTD is to be a friendly, approachable company providing used equipment to fit the customer's needs at a price within their budget.

Jarsan Plant Sales LTD hope to offer expert impartial advice to any customer enquiring about any used item of plant or machinery we might have to offer. Our aim is rapid growth, be active and as honest as possible, the way we would wish to be treated.

In recent years, due to online transactions, the variety of clients from abroad has increased significantly. Thus, the number of sales to oversea's customers exceeded 1000 this past year, without returns and without complaints regarding the quality of products. A number that we are proud of, and showing that our team is one of professionals.


Domain registered 6th January 2014 for 1 year only

Knockin Heath Business Park Oswestry Shropshire SY10 8ED United Kingdom
Tel: +44 121 318 9095
Fax: +44 121 275 6075


(Those are Birmingham numbers. The code for Oswestry is 01691)

Confuses itself with the legitimate UK company which doesn’t actually sell machines
JARSAN LTD
KNOCKIN HEATH BUSINESS PARK
KNOCKIN HEATH
OSWESTRY
SHROPSHIRE
SY10 8DE
Company No. 05313877
Date of Incorporation: 15/12/2004
77310 - Renting and leasing of agricultural machinery and equipment

#186930 by Terminator5 Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:55 pm
Another similar 1 year registered machinery sales site :

http://elvington-holdings.co.uk/about.php

About us

Company history and development

Formed in 1974, Elvington Holdings Limited is the area’s largest independent dealer for Construction and Agricultural equipment. Starting up from one man in a van, we have developed into a highly professional Hire and Sales, supplying customers within a 100 mile radius of York at the beginning, as well as many oversea’s customers in the recent years.


If you should require any specialist plant requirements we are confident we can accommodate

At our Elvington Holdings Limited Depot, we have a comprehensive range of second-hand plant and machinery: Tractors, Combine Harvesters, Backhoe Loaders, Excavators, Wheel Loaders, Skid Steers, Telehandlers, Bulldozers, etc.

A wide customer base combined with a good depth of product knowledge has enabled the company to grow over the past few years and evolve to a new and modern section, the online business.


International transactions and online sales

Elvington Holdings Limited also intermediates transactions for sellers from across the UK who want a professional ad posting online to buyers around the world.

In recent years, due to online transactions, the variety of clients from abroad has increased significantly. Thus, the number of sales to oversea's customers exceeded 1000 in 2011-2012, without returns and without complaints regarding the quality of products. A number that we are proud of, and showing that our team is one of professionals.


Offices

Contact the relevant department on their email address below:

Customer Service:
Zoe Lambert - Secretary
zoe@elvington-holdings.co.uk

Sales Dept.:
George Prut- Sales Manager
sales@elvington-holdings.co.uk

Export Division:
Dylan Freeman - Sales Representative
dylan.freeman@elvington-holdings.co.uk

Logistics Dept.:
Alexander Parsons - Logistics Manager
parsons@elvington-holdings.co.uk

Financial Dept.:
David Artz - Main Accountant
d.artz@elvington-holdings.co.uk

Office:
Elvington Holdings Limited
Manor Cottage
Kexby, York
YO41 5LD, North Yorkshire
United Kingdom

Tel: +44 (0)1904 891 639 | Fax: +44 (0)1904 357 448


Domain name:
elvington-holdings.co.uk

Registrant:
Thomas Longleat

Registrant type:
Unknown

Registrant's address:
54 Gower Street
Reading
Berkshire
RG1 7PE
United Kingdom

Registrar:
GoDaddy.com, LLP. [Tag = GODADDY]
URL: http://www.godaddy.com

Relevant dates:
Registered on: 25-Apr-2013
Expiry date: 25-Apr-2014
Last updated: 15-May-2013

Registration status:
Registered until expiry date.

Name servers:
ns31.domaincontrol.com
ns32.domaincontrol.com

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#189198 by Zoltanski74 Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:09 pm
Hi there,i am one potential client of this company ,i try to buy a tractor from them but i google the company and see this forum, please let me know what is wrong with them because they told me that some one post bad things about them in this forum and is nothing wrong with that.

( We see that bad people used our Company details to make illegal business.
Today we will contact our lawyer to solve the problem and also the police.
Thanks for information. )

Is this the answer from Mr Hansen.

For me this tractor have a good price but is also very strange because i ask the VAT no but he refuse to give me that. Please let me know if is something wrong with them if is a scam or not.
Thank you...
#189203 by TerranceBoyce Tue Jan 28, 2014 5:10 pm
All UK incorporated companies (those styling themselves Ltd/Limited) have to be registered at Companies House.

http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//wcframe?name=accessCompanyInfo

This one is nowhere to be found.

Under UK and EU law they must also quote their company registration number, VAT number and registered office address on their website. They must also quote their full and registered company name.

Jarsan Plant Sales Ltd doesn't exist and is a very good reason why no one can take seriously any legal threat from them, and why you'll never get anything you order.

A fun thing I like to do is find where the real tractors are located. Would you expect to see them advertised for sale in the USA ?

http://jarsan-machinery.com/index.php?page=8&pid=44

Case IH MAG180 2011 Hours 2350 €10500


http://www.usfarmer.com/#/Tractors/4WD/Case_IH/MAG180/2011_Case_IH_MAG180_374087/?userId=7520

2011 Case IH Magnum 180 - $143,642


Need I say more ? (other than that the prices at which they' are offering these items for sale should make you very suspicious that something isn't right).

Online date asks for a gift or money ? - scammer.Never use Western Union to pay money to a stranger. Never make any payment by Wuxfer to a buyer of your goods - it's a scam. Receiving and paying on money through your bank account is money laundering
#189246 by vonpaso xlura Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:49 am
I'll say more. This site claims to have been established in 2004 in the United Kingdom. The domain was registered less than a month ago, for only one year, using a privacy protection service in China. No business having been operating for ten years would register its website for only one year.

The IP address is 91.208.16.242. That's in Russia. The nameservers are ns1.jarsan-machinery.com and ns2.jarsan-machinery.com, both of which are also 91.208.16.242. That is inept network setup. A company as big as they claim to be could surely find someone to set up the domain right! (Some scammers are quite smart with the Internet; these aren't.)

No one serving as a soldier gets tangled up in affairs of life. He wants to please his enlisting officer. 2 Tim. 2:4
#189271 by Zoltanski74 Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:35 am
Thank you guys,is clear for me this is a fraud company. The think is that i am a police man and we have many stories in our country about this selling tractors and for sure i will help our authority with the mails i get from them and also i will get in contact all the time with this company . Thanks again for your help.
#189278 by TerranceBoyce Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:20 am
We are happy and pleased to help Zoltanski74.

Most of the victims of this fraud have been located in Eastern Europe and we would like to help avoid anyone else becoming a victim.

Online date asks for a gift or money ? - scammer.Never use Western Union to pay money to a stranger. Never make any payment by Wuxfer to a buyer of your goods - it's a scam. Receiving and paying on money through your bank account is money laundering
#190799 by cialikpws Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:19 pm
Hello guys i have been in contact with this stupid idiots and fake company,i also call there and someone with a very bad english answer with a mechanic story. All this was reported and locate it. I will send the fake documents that they use and also the bank account. Hope i can help you to make something with them.
#193627 by Karel.Vacec Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:12 am
Hello guys,
is some one who buy any equipments from this firm (Agricultural & Construction Equipment ) cause i get contact with two different companies for the same tractor. Searching on google I see this forum about www.jarsan-machinery.com i ask because i contact also this company and get the same story.
It seems to be a fake offer.

Samuel Osberg / Sales Manager
Agricultural & Construction Equipment
West Yorkshire / United Kingdom
Tel: 0044 127 479 2168
plantequipmentltd@gmail.com
#194058 by iveta.zajacova41 Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:26 am
I found this post about jarsan company, i have a bad experience with them not so far , early of this year . Now I have big healts problems cause i pay for a zetor proxima 75 tractor and i lost my money so I want ask if is any other who pay to this one for any machine. Police from our country work on it and locate the scammer but they need more evidence. Since i contact almost every week this fake seller he answer me with the same e-mails and the same way of work. Now they have a new name and e-mail address:
http://www.used-plant-equipment.com
+44 127 479 2168
Samuel Osberg / Sales Manager
Agricultural & Construction Equipment
West Yorkshire / United Kingdom
Tel: 0044 127 479 2168
Agricultural & Construction Equipment plantequipmentltd@gmail.com
My money was payd in this account.
Account Name: Jarsan Plant Sales Ltd - Marian MERCAN
Bank Name: Barclays Bank PLC
Bank Address: Queen Square, Wolverhampton, WV1 1DS, UK
Bank Sort Code: 209778
Bank Account No: 20611379
Bank IBAN: GB98BARC20977820611379
Bank Swift Code: BARCGB22
I was in contact with the bank but my complaine was with no succes.
If you need more proof please contact me and let's stop this.
I will let open this post and always contact the seller to see if is activ.
Last edited by iveta.zajacova41 on Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:23 am, edited 2 times in total.
#194060 by TerranceBoyce Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:34 am
It's a complete disgrace that the UK is allowing itself to become the fraud capital of the world. The effect will be to make buyers less confident of buying from genuine UK companies which isn't good for the economy.

UK banking procedures and regulation have become negligently lax and fraud is now so out of control the police and authorities haven't a hope of controlling it, let alone prosecuting those involved.

I'm sorry to hear that you have become another victim of these scammers iveta.zajacova41. Fraud has reached such a level that I would recommend people not to use websites offering goods for sale in the UK. One vehicle website I look at daily now has so many fraudulent adverts added daily it would be reckless for anyone to use it to buy a car. Certainly no one must ever pay for any vehicle before they've seen it, and I think fraudsters use the UK because they believe that people trust the UK as a place to buy things. By allowing fraud to escalate out of control, the UK authorities are allowing any reputation the UK had to be destroyed, and that's a great shame.

European fraud gangs can pretend to be located anywhere in the world and they believe that people trust the UK but this stolen money could be passed to anywhere in the world. If the banks took efforts to control the UK bank accounts used in fraud there might be some hope of suppressing it, but I'm not optimistic that this is going to happen.

Online date asks for a gift or money ? - scammer.Never use Western Union to pay money to a stranger. Never make any payment by Wuxfer to a buyer of your goods - it's a scam. Receiving and paying on money through your bank account is money laundering
#194652 by Milan Krivanek Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:56 am
Attention! Yes, the companies Jarsan Plant Sales LTD. are crooks!! Unfortunately, I fell for them! I can not believe three months their site policiie left running, even when they had the first week of our information, that they are crooks! Best regards and do not be fooled
Krivanek Milan from Czech Rep.
#195208 by iveta.zajacova41 Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:24 am
Again same problem with my family,money lost and heart problems when we see that the same thief try to steal money from our country. A friend of mine from Slovakia get in contact with the same company but under another name and email address plantmachineryltd@gmail.com http://www.plant-equipment-online.com Agricultural & Plant Machinery . Also Peter friend of mine from slovakia make a report to federal and international police try to help this with all details and post from slovakia. Is strange to se how they are not in jail.

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