Information on romance scams and scammers.
#12908 by wewhereborg Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:02 am
This one uses a Gmail account, Kisulka1 kisulka1 < [email protected] so header info is very limited, to non-existant

Uses variations of name on e-mail replies Rina, Kisulka, Karina, Kari,

1st reply,'

Thank you so much for writing me back and thank you so much for
Telling me something about yourself. I really want to meet someone
Special for Me. Someone who would love me despite all my disadvantages, who would
Treasure every moment with me and who would give me all his love and
Care. I'm not looking for ideal or perfect man, I don't need him to be
Handsome or young, I just want him to have such qualities as loving,
Caring, gentle, fun but serious when it is serious situations. I
Really want him to be honest with me, and I want to have trust in our
Family, because trust that is something that keeps all families Together.

As for my interests and hobbies, I like to do almost everything. I
Like sport, football, volleyball, basketball, but unfortunately I'm
Not a good player. I like to dance and just go to the disco clubs with
My friends. I like getting into the groove, because I feel like I'm
Flying. I like to read books and to get into another interesting and
Mysterious world. I like to hang out with my friends, because we are
Having a lot of fun together. I like to think, I know that that is a
Weird thing to do, but I like to sit near the window when it=92s rain
And to think about some global and really important things.

Well, my dear, I guess I wrote enough for today, and I hope to read
About you and your life in your next letter. Hugs. Rina


2nd script.

So dear I am very happy that I have you and we can communicate with
You. I am very interesting on you. I see in your eyes kind and calm. I
Want to create strong family where I will be in sure and safe. IT is
Very important go home and know that somebody wait for you. And will
Be happy to see you and hug. So a little about me. I work in a small
Restaurant. I cook very different kind of deserts. I like my work very
Much but it will be more better if I earn much money. You see it is my
Favourite job. Every day I go to my work with happy. I busy my
Favourite occupation. I think and hope that some day I will be able to
Open a little kid cafe. I mean cafe for a little children. There will
Be many tasty things, different cakes,sweets, candy. I believe on it .
It will be pleasure for me to see kids with their parents and I know
It will makes me happy. I think sometimes I am as a kid. And you?
Do you have dream? Do you like children? Do you want to have little
Baby. I sure that every family cannot be without children. So dear I
Want to see your replay and I hope I am still interest you. I wish you
Good day and will not boring at your work. Kiss you Kari


3rd script,

I am also a very glad that you like my dreams about the kid cafe!
Thank you for your words and for your support! I am happy for this! It
Is a really my dream because I love children and I want them be
Happy and have a lot of fun!It is a really nice idea because we don't
Have this in my city! But I also understand that it will be a very hard
To do. I have to have a lot of money to begin make everything as I
Want and at the same moment it is not possible. But I believe on
The best and I know that my wish will come true one day!


Regarding our food , dear it is a very different kind of it. But our traditional
Food is borsch! I like it so much and maybe you have heard about it.
Also we like to cook vareniki and other different little patty! It is
Really a very delicious! But you know for the last time our food is a
Very different and various! We don't stay at the same place and we try
To imagine! I love to cook and I will make you something our national
And a very delicious! I promise you will like it. What about your
Food???? I have never taste it! Can you write me more what is your the
Most favourite dish???? What do you like to drink???? I am very
Curious about you and I hope you will be honest with me.

Kiosses your Karina!


4th script

Thank you honey for your such nice letter and for your interesting
News about your restaurant and your food. I think it is a very
Different from our and I think it might be a very delicious! Am I
Right? I know and I even have tried to prepare such another food but
We have very many fruits and vegetables which cost there a very
Expensive! But your receipt is a very nice. I will try to make this
Dish and later tell you if it was successful! As for borsch you are
Right it has a very many different receipts and with the different
Ingredients. Many people prepare it with the beetroot and another with
The tomato. As for my taste most of all I love with the tomato! It is
A very delicious! But in the different part of Ukraine people prepare
It different.
We have the a very different food and dishes but Vodka I think know
Whole the world. Because I think it is a very famous drink from Ukraine and
Russian! But you did not tell me have you ever tasted it? Please be honest
With me. As for your Australian Vodka I hear about this drink the first time from you
And I am wonder is the same as in my place?
I like our conversation because we have the same hobby and the same interests!
And IA m really wish to get toknow more about you and your place.
Dear I will be over my letter amnd wait for your news.
Kisses karina!


5th script,

Thank you for letter and for your interest. I like you to and I would
Be happy to get to know more and about you too. Well dear about my
Family. How I was told you I live with my parents. We live not very
Rich and very simple life. I love my parents and I know I can trust
And relay on them on every minute in my life. I love my mom and I can
Tell you that she is my best friend. I can share with her everything
And now that she always close to me and in my heart. As I have told
You they don't work and they are pensioners. My mother all her life
Was a simple teacher of younger classes. She loves children and can
Talk to them about everything. My father was his life an engineer and
He worked all the time and I saw him not very often. He is very clever
And calm man. He don't do anything hasty. He is very careful and think
Several times before to do something. I am the only child and all the
Time wanted to have a little brother or a sister but my parents would
Not be able to grown one more child. So this is a little story about
Me and my family. I hope you still want to communicate with me. I wait
For your replay. With kisses and embrace to you. Your Karina.


6th script

Thank you so much for your letter and for your words. I was happy to
Receive it again and got to know more about your life and you! Thank
You also for your honest with me. I am really happy that we try to
Open our life with each other. I think it is the best way for us to
Get to know each other and become closer! I like your photos so much.
Thank you for them.
You asked me why I am alone and looking for my love with the help of
The Internet. Well the answer this a very simple. I could not find
Right person for me in my real life and my country. I don't like our
Men because they are value only appearance and don't know what they
Want. Most of them are drink and smoke much. I hate this and I want to
Be with the health person. I have a very good friend and she found
Her husband with the help of the Internet and now they are happiest
People in the world. She lives in Germany and when I see them together
I know that they are very happy. She advised to me to do the same and
Look for my half part with the help of the Internet! I did it and
Found you! I think it is not by accident.
I like you more and more and with each letter I feel that I know more
An more about your life!!
Kisses KArina!


7th script

Thank you so much for the letter you sent me, I really like to get
Letters from you because I think that they really help us to get to
Know each other better. Do you remember that in my first letter I
Wrote that I like to think about some serious thing while I'm looking
At rain, well it was rainy yesterday and I was sitting near the window
And thought about you about our relationships and how can we develop
Them. I really think that we can be together, and everything we need
Is just time, because time can do an amazing things, don't you think
So? So yesterday I was sitting near the window and thought about my
Future family and if you can be the man I need, and I had no reasons
To think that you can't be my one and only. And then I started to
Think about our meeting, and how we can spend time together. Are you a
Romantic? I'm really romantic girl, well, like the most of the girls
On this planet, and when I stared to imagine our first meeting I
Imaged that I came to your country and you were waiting for me there
With a huge bouquet of write roses, and you were smiling and your eyes
Were shining, I was also smiling, because I was really happy to see
You. I looked into you beautiful eyes and saw there the man I need. I
Noticed that your eyes full of love and care and that is exactly what
I need, you came up to me and gave me those beautiful roses. Then you
Took me to your house so I could take some rest, and then we took your
Car and went to see your beautiful city, you showed me all the see
Sights, and in the end of our trip you showed me the most beautiful
Place on the earth. It was a really green hill, just simple hill, but
There was something in it, something fantastic and mysterious at the
Same time. You stopped you car and we came closer to that hill, and we
Set on that amazing grass to watch the sunset, and everything was so
Romantic, so we started to kiss each other, so kind but so
Passionately, how do you think, can I make my dream come true? Do you
Have such dreams? My dear, I really want you to know that I'm thinking
About you and that I like to get to know you better, and I hope that
You are also interested in me and in communication with me, even
Though I'm that hopeless romantic. Well, darling, hope to hear from
You soon. Your Rina.


8th script

Thank you my dear for your wonderful words and for your attention! I
Am very glad you liked my dream about us , about our meeting and the
Most wonderful and exciting that you think the same. You are romantic
Man and you are my romantic man! I wish we to make true all our dreams
And wishes and U know that our lifes are very close to each other and
i am very happy I have met you here I my life!!! You are my love and!
You are my lovely man! When I begin registered here in the cites I
Did not believe that it is possible to find your love and I was a
Very skeptical about everything but now I know everything is possible
And I know that you are with me and finally I have found my half
Part!!!
My dear I understand that you were so busy and could not write to me more!!!
It is ok! We are together anyway and I wish to developour communication more and more!
Honey I hope we will find time for us to meet and spend time together!
I want this and as for me it is the only beginning of our relationship!
So dear tell me maybe you have any ideas as for our meeting?
Dear I want this so much andi wantto spend with you a lot of nice time.
So honey I appreciate your words and I feel we bacem much closer!
I wait for your answer!
Kisses your Karina!


9th script

Well your letter seems to be a very upset and anrgy!
And I did not expect such reaction from you.
Sorry but I think you are not serious about us.
I am very upset! And I cannot understand why you
Have sent me my photos.
What is mean?
Karina!


10th script

Hello dear! Tell me what is love for you?????
You have written to me love! But how it can be possible.
I wishto see your photo but you don't want to do something to send me them how it can be possible?
Karina!


11th script

Hello.
I wish to find serious man and I wish you to be serious with me.
I wait for your answer and hope the next time you will write to me more about you.
Karina!


12th script

Thank you so much for your replay to me.
I am very happy to receive your letters all the time and get to know
Something about your life.
I will be hope that some
Day I will see you in
Real life. Ilike to receive letters but I think meeting is much
Important for us. But I know that we need time to get to know each other better.
Dear how was your day What are you doing at your work.
You see I saw today very funny picture and imagine us.
The couple of people man and girl quarrel with each other. You cannot
Imagine they have had such emotions
And all this over with a big and hot kiss.
I don't know why I was thinking about you. Maybe it is not normal?
So dear I wait for your replay
Kiss you and miss you so much
Karina.


13th script. In this one she starts to ask for cash..

Dear I am so sad because I have some little
Financial problems. You see I was told you that I have not my own
Computer and I go to the Internet cafe and pay them money for my
Letters to you. I cannot imagine my life without you and without your
Letters. I see that it is not right to write to you about this my
Problem,but I want you to know everything about my life and about me.
Dear I don't know how I will find solution from this situation. I need
Your help and I know you will understand me and my request you. You
Are very important for me. I want to be close to you and our
Communication help us to be closer. I have to go . But I hope for your
Understanding and for your help. Sincerely your little and sad Karina.


Pictures,,

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Mod edit to watermark pictures - Ralph
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#12921 by The Enchantress Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:22 am
Well Done wewhereborg. Thank you for posting information on this scammer. :=)

Noted this scammer has a profile on AntheaClub and mybelovednet

http://antheaclub.com/index.php?page=view_profile&id=9504

karina
Member Name: rinylya
Member ID: 009762
Caucasian / White,
Age: 25 (15-Apr-1983)
Single - Never Married
Belovodsk,
Ukraine

General Information

I’m really interesting person. I really like to read and to dance. I really like to spend time with my friends and just to have fun together. But still I consider myself as a serious woman with a certain goals in my life. As most of the women I’m really romantic and I like start, beaches and movies that are making me cry. I really like sport, even though I’m not really good at that. I like music, all kinds of music, because I think that music it is one of the wonders of the world. If you want to find out more about me write me, and I will be happy to write you back

Appearance

I am a very honest person, I am very open with what I say, and am not afraid to show my emotions, and am not afraid to tell the partner what I feel about them.


Looking for

I do not like lazy people, ungrateful, liars, dishonest and slow movers. I like people who mean what they say and they say what they mean (a rare species really). I appreciate people who are dependable and reliable I’m looking for someone who can bring a fairy-tale into my life, and who can be my hero. I really believe that there is such man and I will meet him here.


More mail examples;

Hello,my name is Karina. I watched your profile and I'm really interested in communication with you. I want to get to know you better, because probably you are the one and only for me. Hope to get a letter from you, here is my e-mail: [email protected]


Hello xxxxx.

Thank you very much for you letter and for your attention. nice to hear from you. well, i suppose you want to know a little bit about me, so here it is: as you know, my name as Karina, or just Rina, i live in Belovodsk, it's Lugansk region, graduated cookery educational, use to work as a cooker confectioner, but now hunting for another job.

I was born in April 15, 1983, so now I'm 25 years old. I have blond hair and gray eyes, but well, I think that my picture will show you what appearance I have, and I hope that you will like me. I also hope to get some pictures from you. what i do in free time is watching TV, reading books or magazines, hanging out with my friends, going shopping sometimes. when it's spring or summer time i like to spend time by nature - forest, river or something, outdoor activities. more information (also contact) i will share after we communicate a bit more and find that we are interesting for each other, isn't it fair? so let's just correspond for some little period of time and decide if we really have things in common.
thanks anyway,I will be wait for your replay and your photos.
Sincerely Karina.


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#12962 by wewhereborg Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:43 am
14th script,
Still hasn't asked for a specific amount.

dear I appreciate your help and your ideas but now i want to explain you my situation!You see!
I don't have computer at home and that's why i use help of the Internet cafe to write you letters!
For each letter i pay about 4$ and it is a very hard for me to continue this communication with you because
I need your help with the money! I am sure this communication is a very important for us and to
be happy we have to be closer!
i want this and i want you to understand my situation. So tell me please will you help me?
Kisses your Karina!


I will add to this as the requests come in.

Note she doesn't ask for a set amount, but hints, suggests what I will get if I pay.
15th script
Honey thank you so much for your letter and for your support to me.
I appreciate this!
My love you can transfer money directly to my name with the help of the Western Union or Money Gramm!
here is necessary information for you:
KARINA ZEMINA, SHEVCHENKO STR. 7, Belovodsk, Ukraine 94100

My dear i promise i will write you more when we will pay for the letters!
I need you!
With lots of love your Karina!


16th script,
now we go for the economy package, short and not all that sweet

My dear sorry for the short letter!
Honey you can send as you think it will be necessary!
For each letter to you i spend 4$ and i don't know how much money do you have!
I think maybe 100$ will be enough???
I wish to be with you and i hope for your help.
Kisses your Karina!
Last edited by wewhereborg on Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:28 am, edited 3 times in total.
#12963 by Ralph Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:57 am
Thanks wewhereborg for your continued work on gathering this scammers scripts, well done :=)

For anybody else that may have stumbled upon this, please note that wewhereborg is an experienced scambaiter who is taking precautions to conceal his identity from those he is communicating with.

Please do not enter into communication with known scammers unless you have been trained to do it safely.
#13461 by wewhereborg Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:31 am
Now we are down to the business end of the relationship, replies are short and to the point.
But so far it's still in love with me.

17th Script
Hello my dearest xxxx
I just wanted to let you know I think of you and need you so much!
I wait for your help and hope for the best between us!
Many kisses your always sincerely Karina!!!!


I explain the perils of "The Western Union'', Terrorist activity, and nasty scammers. Undetured she sends her details. It's still all sweet and charming.

18th Script
Hello my dearest xxxx,
Thank you for the reply. I am so upset with your letter. My dearest
xxxxx, I know that there are a lot of terrorist activity's all over
The world, I believe that it is not only in our country.
My dearest xxxxx, I am not sure what do you mean when you wrote me
About scammers and what is it???
I want to be with you, and I believe that we will overcome any
Problems together.
xxxxx, I look through the form you have sent me, xxxxx, I have sent
You all my information, you have my full name, my address, everything.
But the last three paragraphs, I think, must be filled in in the bank,
By the people who work there!!!!
My dearest xxxxx you must give them the information I have sent you
And they will fill in the form.
I hope you will be able to fill in the form with my information you
Have got already.
I attach this information you need one more time:
My full name: KARINA ZEMINA,
Country: Ukraine
Town: Belovodsk
Street: Shevchenko str. 7
Index: 94100
Together we will overcome everything, your Karina.


Of cause the money sent, I know this because I wrote the receipt myself,
And got two replies in quick succession,

19th Script
Hello my dearest xxxx!
Thank you honey for your answer and for this information! I was in
The bank and they have told me that they don't have such transfer!
Honey please let me know what is go on. I hope it is not a joke.
My dear I wait for your answer and news!
Kisses Karina!


Followed by

20th Script
Hello my dearest xxxxx!
My dear I hope everything is all right! I miss you and wait for your news !
Please write to me soon if everything is all right!
I wait for your answer!
Karina!


Precious is starting to panic.
This just arrived, Still no sign of the cash, wonder why.

21st script
Hello my dear xxxx!
Dear i was today in the bank one more time but nothing change!
I hope we will solve this problem very soon!
I wait for your news and hope for the best!
Kisses your Karina!
#25645 by The Enchantress Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:29 pm
Note this scammer is using X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.99.29) Professional

This scammer is using stolen photographs of model/actress "Tami Donaldson"


Message;

Hello, thank you for your reply, I'm really glad to know that you are interested in me and that you want to communicate with me and to get to know me better, i also really want to know more about you because I think that you are really interesting person, and I think that it will be easier if you will write me on my e-mail address. I want to give you it. hope to hear from you. Bye. Karina. Write me here:[email protected]


Further mails;

Hello xxxxx.

Thank you a lot for your letter and for your attention. It was a pleasure for me to receive it! I will write you more about me and hope also to receive informative letter from you. I think we have a very good chance to learn each other better and i will start from telling you something about me.

As you know yet my name is Karina!!!! I am 26 years old. I am young and lonely girl who is looking for strong, kind and nice man ! I am very serious with my intentions and my searches. I don't want him to be ideal. I want him to be a very kind and share with me all life!

I live in the little city in Ukraine and hope you have heard about my country! My city named is Belovodsk! It is a very little but nice and green place!

As for my life I have not be married and right now I live with my parents! They are retied people. I work in the little cafe like a cooker confectioner. My work is my hobby!!! I like to improve something new and it makes me great pleasure!!!!

I have a lot of friends but my goal is to find the only one man with whom i will be able to share my life! Who knows where is my happy! So i think it is enough for the first letter and I would be very glad to receive your answer and more photos!

Of course i would be glad to get to know you better! About your life goals and wishes!!!

I wish you a very nice day and wait for answer with great impatience.

Sincerely Karina!!!


Hello my dear xxxxx.

Thank you for your sweet as usual letter! it is happy each time to open my e-mail box and see your letter and your name ! I like you more and more and really this communication become a very important for me. I like you and i want to create with you a very strong relationship and also friendship! i hope for it and I hope we will be able to be closer one day!

well when i will want to seduce you i think i will wear something a very special and a very nice , it might be red colour and also maybe pink!!! Light lingerie and a very light dress , i am sure you will not be able to resist and will be on my hugs and my embraces!

It sounds wonderful and I want you to know you are wonderful man with wonderful and a very nice character! i want to be with you honest and i want you to understand that this letters are very important for me.

dear as for me i wish to know how do you think so is it possible for us to meet? Have you ever thought about it? I am very interest to know more about this.

Dear maybe you have any another questions to me? So please be free to ask me them.

i will be wait for your answer with lot of kisses and hugs your Karina!

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#25646 by The Enchantress Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:30 pm
Hello xxxxx!

Thank you so much for your reply and for your lovely photo. i like to receive them very much. i know that you are very very close to me and i feel you all my heart and soul. I miss you and with each letter i understand i want to be more and more with you! i wish to meet you from the depth of my heart!!!

Dear I feel you are ready for our meeting as me and it is wonderful!!!!.

Thank you so much my dear xxxxx for your inviting me to your country.

As I have told you earlier i have never been anywhere outside my country and it is the best and wonderful tine for me. I am sure you will be able to show me all places of interest and we will be able to spend time only together! Forget about all problems and difficulties!

Talk with each other and have some suppers with the candles and calm music! i dream about it, i dream about our the first kiss and your sight! I want to see your eyes. i want to touch you and i want to get up in the morning from your kisses!!!! I hope you feel and you want the same. Feelings, emotions are the most important than material things and i want you to think about this!!!

Dear i want to say you that I am very serious about us and our relationship. I want you to know about this. You are wonderful person and you are very kind! i am lucky i have met you here!!!

But dear i have some difficulties to make true my dream to come to you and I am sure you need to know about this!!!

As you know i have never been anywhere and I even don't have an International passport! I know it is cost a very expensive for me and I cannot allow my self to make it. I will be need your help with all this!

I am very worry and afraid to see your answer , i want to see you so much! And this meeting will be the only beginning of our relationship. I know , i feel this!!!!

Dear Please write me as you will be able I always will be happy to see your letter.

Kiss you and miss you so much.

Your always Karina.


Hello my dearest xxxxx!

I am so glad that i have your support right now on this a very important moment in our relationship and my life I have never been anywhere outside my country and this decision was a very hard for me.

But I am brave because i have you and I trust you! I hope that you will be with me and we will be able to manage with everything together!

Dear i got to know all information about my an international passport and how way and how soon i can make it. So I can make it for the different period of time. As faster to make it it will be cost more expensive! So if make it for 1 day it will be cost 450$. for 2 weeks it will be cost 350$, for 1 moth 290$ and for 2 months it will be cost about 190$!

Dear I did not expect that prices are so high for it and I am so sad that I cannot allow my self to make it by myself. I understand that it is a really high prices for my life.

So dear as soon we will be able top pay for the passport than sooner we will be able to be closer! i want this most of all and I hope for the best!

Dear just be with me. I hope we will find solution from this situation.

i send you my kisses and wait for your answer.

Sincerely your always Karina!

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#25647 by The Enchantress Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:31 pm
Hello my dear xxxxx!

Thank you dear so much for your answer to me and for your words! I cannot imagine we will meet and will be able to enjoy each day together!

I wish we to be happy and i want to know that you are really serious man and i know that together we will be the most happiest people in the world.

Thank you my dear for your compliments!!!! I feel my self very happy with you and hope it is our love story!

My dear thank you a lot for your words and for your support me.

I hope for the best!

I got to know that you can send me money with the help of the Western Union or Money Gram!

We have this system in my city and it is a very fats and easy way to transfer money!

I also got to know you need my information:

KARINA ZEMINA, SHEVCHENKO STR. 7, Belovodsk, Ukraine 94100

Dear I trust you and i hope for the best between us!

I want to be with you and i wait for your soon answer!

I am little bit nervous and exciting at the same time but

i know that i can trust you! Am i right?

Dear i wait for your answer and send you my kisses.

Sincerely your always Karina!

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#25648 by The Enchantress Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:31 pm
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