Information on romance scams and scammers.
#309301 by angelasha Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:14 pm
Hi, I've been talking to [email protected] for about 5 weeks now. I met him on an online dating site, and needless to say I've been suspicious from the start, but this guy has an explanation for everything. He says he's a 1st sergeant in the army stationed in DC. Gave me the name of the base and everything. He claims he cannot leave base to meet me until he is on leave which won't happen for another 5 weeks or so. Claims he gets 11 weeks, then 3 weeks, then 4 weeks leave. Says he owns a house in California, but lives on base in DC. Claims he cannot call me, Skype, em or send emails or he'll get in trouble. Says he can't have that sort of communication with me until i'm on his data profile. Has made me fall for him, has talked about marrying me... etc etc... Has never asked me for money or anything. Today I searched the originating IP address from the 2 emails I have received from him and both of them (which were slightly different) came up as from South Africa. I confronted him. He says it must be the server on base re-routing the IP due to his classified position. I want so badly to believe him. Does this sound like a scam? If so why? He has not asked for money.
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#309303 by Bryon Williams Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:40 pm
Welcome to Scamwarners,

Yes, it is a scam. He is a thief. He will always lie to you you.

The money request has not came yet because he feels like you are not fully groomed yet.

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#309305 by angelasha Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:12 pm
I should get out now while I'm ahead huh? He sent me another email. This one's IP is NY. How easy is it to fake and IP address?
#309307 by Bryon Williams Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:38 pm
Please post the emails he sent you minus your personal information.

Scammers will re-use the same script. By posting the script you will help other women.

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#309320 by angelasha Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:34 pm
The one email is pics, saying "I hope this makes you happy"

The 2nd one "Hi xxxxxxxxxxxx/babe, I can't sleep tonight too and I had to run away from our chat on whatsapp cos I didn't want to change my decision, I know I'll be fine by tomorrow. I'm sorry it has to be this way, but I can stand by my decision to just be friends with you. I love you and I'll say it again that I truly love you, but we can't be in a relationship because of so many things. It's not only what you did wrong or how you handled the relationship, you also said it that you've been worried about the kinda job I do. I'm sure you can't be patient and when it goes on like that, I don't know what could happen if am on deployment. I thought about it all really and I know I can't handle your insecurity and impatience. I love you and I'll never forget the little moment but lovely time we had. I still look forward to us meeting soon or in the nearest future, maybe family gathering too, but all as friends. I don't know if you'll get this before you sleep, but when you wake up to my email, please put a smile on your face and know that I have nothing against you at all and I'll like us to continue as good friends. My warm regards to my xxxxxx, stay beautiful and always smile. Regards. Jason"

and the third one from today, after I confronted him
"I don't have much to say, am not just in the mood to talk to you right now. You're talking about seeing me, have I seen you? Isn't that applying to both of us? I just don't want to go into that mood please. Thanks
Jas"

Most of our communication has been through whatsapp.
#309321 by Bryon Williams Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:51 pm
Stop all contact with the thief. He will only continue to lie if you confront him.

He will use religion and guilt to steal your money.

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#309327 by Mike Wilson Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:11 am
Scammer wrote :

can't have that sort of communication with me until i'm on his data profile


Total scammer nonsense to cover the fact that he is African and his accent would give him away instantly. Real soldiers can email, make phone and Skype calls to friends and family.

Just stop communicating with this criminal without telling him that you know it is a scam. Just go silent and let him wonder what happened.

It is ALWAYS a scam
If the pet seller or shipper asks for money to be sent via Western Union, Money Gram, any brand of gift card. Walmart To Walmart , Zelle , PayPal friends and family option, or mentions Cameroon
#309522 by Bryon Williams Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:57 pm
It is 100% a scam.

He is a thief. Everything he has told you is a lie.

Military members do not pay for leave. They earn free leave each year. Also only the member can request leave through his chain of command. His wife, mother, children nor internet girlfriend can do this. Also they would never have contact with his chain of command.

Military members have access to their money. They also do not pay for phones, internet, flights home or medical.

Military provides all meals.

Please stop all contact with the scammer. If you confront him he will continue to lie.



This is a warning from the Army about this scam.
http://www.army.mil/article/130861/Army ... nce_scams/

QUANTICO, Va. (July 30, 2014) -- Special Agents from the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Command, commonly known as CID, are once again warning internet users worldwide about cyber criminals involved in an online crime that CID has dubbed "the Romance Scam."

CID special agents continue to receive numerous reports from victims located around the world regarding various scams of persons impersonating U.S. Soldiers online. Victims are usually unsuspecting women, 30 to 55 years old, who believe they are romantically involved with an American Soldier, yet are being exploited and ultimately robbed, by perpetrators who strike from thousands of miles away.

"We cannot stress enough that people need to stop sending money to persons they meet on the internet and claim to be in the U.S. military," said Chris Grey, Army CID's spokesman.

"It is very troubling to hear these stories over and over again of people who have sent thousands of dollars to someone they have never met and sometimes have never even spoken to on the phone," Grey said.

The majority of the "romance scams," are being perpetrated on social media and dating-type websites where unsuspecting females are the main target.

The criminals are pretending to be U.S. servicemen, routinely serving in a combat zone. The perpetrators will often take the true rank and name of a U.S. Soldier who is honorably serving his country somewhere in the world, or has previously served and been honorably discharged, then marry that up with some photographs of a Soldier off the internet, and then build a false identity to begin prowling the internet for victims.

The scams often involve carefully worded romantic requests for money from the victim to purchase special laptop computers, international telephones, military leave papers, and transportation fees to be used by the fictitious "deployed Soldier" so their false relationship can continue. The scams include asking the victim to send money, often thousands of dollars at a time, to a third party address.

Once victims are hooked, the criminals continue their ruse.

"We've even seen instances where the perpetrators are asking the victims for money to purchase "leave papers" from the Army, help pay for medical expenses from combat wounds or help pay for their flight home so they can leave the war zone," said Grey.

These scams are outright theft and are a grave misrepresentation of the U.S. Army and the tremendous amount of support programs and mechanisms that exist for Soldiers today, especially those serving overseas, said Grey.

Along with the romance-type scams, CID has been receiving complaints from citizens worldwide that they have been the victims of other types of scams -- once again where a cyber crook is impersonating a U.S. service member. One version usually involves the sale of a vehicle; where the service member claims to be living overseas and has to quickly sell their vehicle because they are being sent to another duty station. After sending bogus information regarding the vehicle, the seller requests the buyer do a wire transfer to a third party to complete the purchase. When in reality, the entire exchange is a ruse for the crook to get the wire transfer and leave the buyer high and dry, with no vehicle.

Army CID continues to warn people to be very suspicious if they begin a relationship on the internet with someone claiming to be an American Soldier and within a matter of weeks, the alleged Soldier is asking for money, as well as discussing marriage.


The majority of these scams have a distinct pattern to them, explained Grey.

The perpetrators often tell the victims that their units do not have telephones or they are not allowed to make calls or they need money to "help keep the Army internet running." They often say they are widowers and raising a young child on their own to pull on the heartstrings of their victims.

"We've even seen where the criminals said that the Army won't allow the Soldier to access their personal bank accounts or credit cards," said Grey.

All lies, according to CID officials.

"These perpetrators, often from other countries, most notably from West African countries, are good at what they do and quite familiar with American culture, but the claims about the Army and its regulations are ridiculous," said Grey.

The Army reports that numerous very senior officers and enlisted Soldiers throughout the Army have had their identities stolen to be used in these scams.

To date, there have been no reports to Army CID indicating any U.S. service members have suffered any financial loss as a result of these attacks. Photographs and actual names of U.S. service members have been the only thing utilized. On the contrary, the victims have lost thousands.

One victim revealed that she had sent more than $60,000 to the scammer. Another victim from Great Britain told CID officials that over the course of a year, she had sent more than $75,000 to the con artists.

"The criminals are preying on the emotions and patriotism of their victims," added Grey.

The U.S. has established numerous task force organizations to deal with this and other growing issues; unfortunately, the people committing these scams are using untraceable email addresses on Gmail, Yahoo, Hotmail, etc., routing accounts through numerous locations around the world, and utilizing pay-per-hour Internet cyber cafes, which often times maintain no accountability of use. The ability of law enforcement to identify these perpetrators is very limited, so individuals must stay on the alert and be personally responsible to protect themselves.

"Another critical issue is we don't want victims who do not report this crime walking away and thinking that a U.S. serviceman has ripped them off when in fact that serviceman is honorably serving his country and often not even aware that his pictures or identity have been stolen," said Grey.

What to look for:

DON'T EVER SEND MONEY! Be extremely suspicious if you are asked for money for transportation costs, communication fees or marriage processing and medical fees.

Carefully check out the stories you are being told. If it sounds suspicious, there is a reason, it's routinely false -- trust your instincts.

If you do start an internet-based relationship with someone, check them out, research what they are telling you with someone who would know, such as a current or former service member.

Be very suspicious if you never get to actually speak with the person on the phone or are told you cannot write or receive letters in the mail. Servicemen and women serving overseas will often have an APO or FPO mailing address. Internet or not, service members always appreciate a letter in the mail.

Military members have an email address that end in ".mil." If the person you are speaking with cannot sent you at least one email from a ".mil" (that will be the very LAST part of the address and nothing after), then there is a high probability they are not in the military.

Many of the negative claims made about the military and the supposed lack of support and services provided to troops overseas are far from reality -- check the facts.

Be very suspicious if you are asked to send money or ship property to a third party or company. Often times the company exists, but has no idea or is not a part of the scam.

Be aware of common spelling, grammatical or language errors in the emails.

Be cognizant of foreign and regional accents that do not match the person's story.

WHERE TO GO FOR HELP

Report the theft to the Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) (FBI-NW3C Partnership) at http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx.

Report the theft to the Federal Trade Commission at http://www.ftc.gov/idtheft.

Your report helps law enforcement officials across the United States in their investigations.

Report the theft by phone at 1-877-ID-THEFT (438-4338) or TTY, 1-866-653-4261.

Report the theft by mail at the following address:

Identity Theft Clearinghouse
Federal Trade Commission
Washington, DC 20580

Report the fraud by email to the Federal Trade Commission on Nigerian Scams via at [email protected].

For more information on CID, visit http://www.cid.army.mil.

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#311789 by Bryon Williams Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:39 am
Basically the scammer is setting you up for what fake leave package you want to pay for.

Claims he gets 11 weeks, then 3 weeks, then 4 weeks leave



I will repeat:

Military members do not pay for leave. They earn free leave each year. Also only the member can request leave through his chain of command. His wife, mother, children nor internet girlfriend can do this. Also they would never have contact with his chain of command.

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#312075 by malu53 Sun Nov 13, 2016 8:01 pm
this pic was already used in 2013 by somebody on the French edition of the social site POF = plentyoffish

Image <<< click on pic to enlarge
#312076 by Bryon Williams Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:08 pm
1st sergeant
First Sergeant
Jason Turner
US Army.
Washington DC
D.C
Sgt
[email protected]


facebook.com/jason.turner.3194524
Worked at United States Army Military
Lives in Seattle, Washington
Divorced
From Seattle, Washington


Photo stolen from a “Retired United States Army Command Sergeant Major”

Scam also documented here >> http://fake-scam.info/index.php/topic,12052.0.html

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