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#6650 by FFS Sun Jan 04, 2009 1:26 pm
Username: owen0707
email: [email protected]

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Account info at plentyoffish.com
- member 10584223
City: Tyne Side - UK
Sign: Libra
Height: 5'8"
Age: 40 years old
Ethnicity: Caucasian with Blond hair
Smoker: No
Body Type: Average
Religion: Christian - other
Profession: Real estate/insurance
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He is also noted as a scammer at dotsilver
Owen Sidwell
Where he claims to be in the United States
Used Self description:
My Full names are Owen sidwell.. am 40, Single and Looking, am Warm, Caring, Affectionate, Generous and Trustworthy, above all God Fearing, am the first child of my parents and i also have a brother..but he is late.I attended the University of Newcastle Upon Tyne and Ohio university when i got my master's in Engineering.I have one lovely son by name willaims he lives with me sometimes but i do love kids a lot... I work as a real estate agent in a co owned company.

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About -
I'm 40 (if age is an issue, don't count..lol), I have a son, I go out to the casino from time to time as well as Outskirts and occasionally Fat Alberts. I do enjoy it but I also enjoy setting at home watching a movie or going out to see a movie. I'm honest and have been played one to many times, I know how it feels so don't expect it from me. You want to play a game, all I ask is you be honest from the start and we're good to go. Anything else you want to know, just ask. Take care Owen
First Date -
Anyone with a good personality. That narrows it down a bit huh?...lol If you are in to playing games, explain the rules up front. If you don't know the rules, don't play the game. Simple enough isn't it?
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Also the header as full, excluding my email addy

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From: Owen Sidwell <[email protected]>
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"Hello Dear,
I am not that comfortable with making the first approach and so I don`t usually send out many contact requests. But, looking at your profile, I thought this time it might be worthwhile. We really do seem to have a lot in common. If you feel the same way, I would enjoy getting in touch with you.i am not often here andwill be pleased if you write to me via my email id at [email protected]...waiting to her from you"[/quote)

Wow,i never expected you to write back so soon
well i am on real estate and property insurance,i have a son...i am 40 years old guy
not too old for you but i apprecaite it like this...i will not talk much but will hope you have questions to ask,i am open to it ok...
owen


He's now playing the cautious type..
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#6651 by Holly Brown Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:41 pm
You may have noticed the tell-tale signs of a scammer.

1 - "Am" instead of "I am"
2 - Says he is "God Fearing" - do you know any American or Briton who claims that?
3 - He says his brother is "late." Most Americans or Brits would say the man was dead or that he had "passed on."
4 - He gave you his email address and said he wasn't on the Plentyoffish" site often. That is because he's expecting to be dropped from the site as women report him as a scammer.
5 - His son's name is "willaims" - even allowing for a typo, that is not a standard English name.

There are several other indicators that this man is not what he claims to be, and the search that turned up the scam report is gravy. ;)

He's not using pics from a modelling site, though. :lol:

[email protected] if you want to ask me more questions.
#6652 by FFS Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:38 am
I knew the red pointers when I saw them.. I had his account at POP deleted.. and actually I am exchanging emails with this guy while we're doing this.. just being curious as to be knowing what exactly he wants etc etc..
Hello my dearest

How are you today and how to work with you there, I am well and doing well here, I just wanted to tell a little about myself.My full name is owen sidwell 40Years single and searching and hours of warming, caring, affection, generous and trustworthy, especially the fear of God, I am the only son of my parents ,I attended the University of Ohio and later to the University of Newcastle Upon Tyne when I got my master's degree in Engineering.I have A lovely son steve and he lived with me sometimes but I love my children and can 't wait to have more, work as real estate Agent for a construction company and usually i live in london, UK, but currently in Nigeria, Africa in an employment....Blue is my favourite colour...

Owen


OMG! He spat that part out quick enough.. - why do they always seem to be working with construction of any kind?
He doesn't write much about himself.. he just copies and pastes and adds a little more onto it.. Ugh..
He claims to have a kid.. ok.. but the kid apparently is in his upper teens.. or adult.. (I know there isnt one)
Hmm.. my children.. he has one kid.. but loves his children, not child.. (of course being in Nigeria he's most likely got kids all over the place.. bad pun.. sorry)
Annd.. you would think that going to one University would actually be enough to get a Masters degree.. or am I wrong?
#6653 by Arnold Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:40 am
I look into my crystal ball and see a serious illness. The mist clears and it's the son Steve (AKA Willaims) in Nigeria. An illness that will need a lot of money to treat.
Last edited by Arnold on Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:21 am, edited 1 time in total.

#6654 by FFS Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:43 am
Ah yes, I missed that part.. *chuckle*

He just wrote back once again..

wow....it nice to hear from yo sooner than i thought..
it ok here but being a market that the government intervane in it...
so can you write me liitle about yourself..i wait to read your mail Again
soon..Owen


and his english grammar has bottomed already.. not really surprising though, I was expecting it to do that..
and returned the mail with an old description of what I used to be like.. oh.. about 20 years back or so.. hehe
#6655 by Holly Brown Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:39 am
I do hope you're being careful when corresponding with him. Are you using any of your real information? Even though you are very aware that he is a scammer (and thus not likely to fall for him), you don't want to reveal anything about yourself to him. It's not very likely that he'll come to your neck of the woods, but it's safest to be completely disguised.

What you're doing is called baiting - wasting the scammer's time so that he has less time to spend on real potential victims. Our sisteer site, www.419eater.com, is chock-full of baiters. You might want to pop over there and check out the landscape. ;)

Scammers in Africa see the booming construction industry in that part of the world as a very lucrative business to be in. I suppose government contracts are much the same anywhere in the world. And much of the building in West Africa is paid for with oil money. Funny, though, they have little understanding of the industry. When questioned why an engineer would design a building or why an architect is involved with the actual construction, they tend to pass it off with little or no explanation. It just sounds good to them.

Sadly, I'm convinced that many people don't really read the profiles on the dating sites. There are so many contradictions in the profiles scammers post that red flags should be waving in plain sight. Kudos to you for recognizing them. :)

[email protected] if you want to ask me more questions.
#6656 by FFS Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:12 pm
No, I don't give out any personal info to him about me.. I know that by now already as charmingjohn324 nearly convinced me but like said , I was getting too many red flags on the guy, so I called quit.

This time I'm just having fun.. getting as much info as I can out from this odd fellow.
In the meanwhile, I've already fished out a few more scammers at POF.. where one even put in his headline 'looking for God Fearing woman" Geee!

Anyhows, I have been to the mentioned site, been checking out the can do's and can't do's to be a scam baiter.
I'm just willing to play along and hoping to nail the bugger when they do the mistake of revealing too much and forget to scramble their originating IP, since this dude's IP has been scrambled to come from Sunnyvale, CA, USA.

This guy now wants me to IM him soon. Hmm.. thing is no IMs reveal the IP.. but my flash chat does.. hehe..
not that he can see it, but as the admin I can see it..

ok....can we talk on IM soon...i am really interested in selling good shot because there are so many funny things happening here that i dont pay more attention but jsut laugh when i get back to me room..hopw to talk t you soon


He had asked me to tell him a bit about myself. I told him then that I like taking photos and was trying to sell them off as stockphotos but that it was very hard to do if one didn't have the appropiate equipment. The above quote was his response to it.
#6658 by FFS Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:04 pm
Dangit!

He's using something else to not just scramble his IP adress for emails but also for online chat.. *grumble*


IP: 208.78.62.99
HOST: host99.fobsky62.juch-tech.com

as far as I know juch-tech.com is based in Canada

[OOC]: Lad has entered at 6:55 pm
[Lad] 6:55 pm: Hi
[Lad] 6:58 pm: HELLO
[Lad] 6:58 pm: ARE YOU THERE
[me] 6:59 pm: oh.. hiii.. how are you?
[Lad] 6:59 pm: ok
[Lad] 6:59 pm: am fine
[Lad] 6:59 pm: nice here i guess
[me] 7:00 pm: so.. what big shot were you talking about?
[Lad] 7:01 pm: oh ok
[Lad] 7:01 pm: just talking about having some cutural photo here
[me] 7:01 pm: oh i see.. so how is your son doing?
[Lad] 7:01 pm: and thier dance mood
[Lad] 7:01 pm: he is fine
[Lad] 7:02 pm: so do you have any kids
[Lad] 7:02 pm: and how old you really are
[me] 7:02 pm: yeah.. i have two kids. 40
[Lad] 7:02 pm: oh ok
[Lad] 7:02 pm: and you are alone now
[Lad] 7:03 pm: guess that is where we are common
[me] 7:04 pm: well pretty much alone yeah
[me] 7:04 pm: you said you were in Nigeria.. what kind of countryscape is that.. rally?
[Lad] 7:04 pm: it large for what i know
[Lad] 7:05 pm: and multiple languages
[Lad] 7:05 pm: i have only been to about 4 states here
[me] 7:06 pm: states? is it like the US then? I've never ben to Africa
[Lad] 7:07 pm: yes
[Lad] 7:07 pm: where have you been to apart from sweden
[me] 7:08 pm: oh a few places.. the US, portugal, greece, england, norway, finland, germany, france..
[Lad] 7:08 pm: oh that us alot
[me] 7:09 pm: but hey someone like you must travel alot too. right?
[Lad] 7:09 pm: so what do you went there to do if i may ask
[Lad] 7:09 pm: so
[me] 7:10 pm: went where?
[Lad] 7:10 pm: yes,but only to us and england
[Lad] 7:10 pm: i am talking about the countrise you visited
[Lad 7:11 pm: please i need to go otu and get something to eat now
[Lad] 7:11 pm: talk to you soon
[me] 7:11 pm: well. i wentto greece with my mother.. and the other places i went with family and the US i went footing around
[me] 7:11 pm: okies
[Lad] 7:11 pm: this is my mobile number...+2347085720007
[me] 7:11 pm: okies
[Lad] 7:11 pm: soon i hope to hear from you
[me] 7:12 pm: bye bye


*chuckle* he's already gotten tired of the chat.. and is ready to move on to trying to bait me into calling him..
however, I'm not going to do such a thing.. nuh uh!
He has two options only.. that is by emailing me or going into that chat with me..
#6659 by Arnold Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:42 pm
FFS wrote:No, I don't give out any personal info to him about me.. I know that by now already as charmingjohn324 nearly convinced me but like said , I was getting too many red flags on the guy, so I called quit.

Are you using a real life email address though? You mat be surprised how much info you can find about yourself by googling on it.
Baiters use free webmail accounts with totally invented names, etc. As do scammers of course.

#6660 by FFS Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:54 pm
Mr Tambourine Man wrote:
FFS wrote:No, I don't give out any personal info to him about me.. I know that by now already as charmingjohn324 nearly convinced me but like said , I was getting too many red flags on the guy, so I called quit.

Are you using a real life email address though? You mat be surprised how much info you can find about yourself by googling on it.
Baiters use free webmail accounts with totally invented names, etc. As do scammers of course.


Nope. I have never given out my real email addy.
I use both gmail and hushmail as both hide the real IP addies. :)

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