Information on romance scams and scammers.
#2099 by bb1 Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:37 am
. I met a woman online from Sydney, Australia who scammed me out of $6,300.

I met her in person in October 2005 in SLC, Utah. She then visited me a couple of times where I live. She told me she was going to move back here in Jan 2006 to be with me. After she went home in Nov 2005, she claimed to have been ripped off by her friends while she was gone. After I refused to help her anymore financially she “broke up” with me and told me she is unable to move to the U.S. I am enclosing a few e-mails I have from her with the full headers. She also used my computer when she stayed with me and therefore left her address book on my computer. It contains over 165 e-mail address of men. It is my opinion that some of them may be victims as well. 22 of those address have been blocked by her.

When she was in the U.S., she visited other men as well. She told me she was here on business, to get investors for her dance production. I have seen the photos of her with the men. She went to New York City from ????????, and then to Los Angelas, California, before going back home.

Her personal information:
Liberty Honeyjade Ybanez changed her name to HJ Stone on her Facebook page

Last known address
9 Castle St North Paramatta 2151 NSW Sydney, Australia
61 0296837345 home
61 0433268044 cell

Previous addresses
181 Sandal Crs
Carramar 2163 NSW
Sysney, Australia
Phone61 02 9723 9875

64-A Buckingham St
Canley Heights, 2166 NSW
Sydney, Australia

6/87-89 Cambridge St
Canley Heights NSW 2166
Sydney, Australia
61 02 9724 4747

Car is a dark BMW
Plate # EST*13M

Business license ABN 17 982 933 589
Liberty Dance Productions

Age 38 5’2” approx 90-100 lbs brown hair, slender build, brown eyes
Dob 4/5/69

E-mail address:
[email protected]
[email protected]

I met her on http://www.ldsplanet.com
her username is sunkiss

Dearest xxxxxx,

I am sooo bless to have you .. and greatful all the things that you've done with me.. your one in a million.. so pure and helpful a very generous human being.. its good i travel soo far and wide and found you.

Anyway.. i am so upset with this phone.. i have to pay $244 dollars but i have to see the invoice before i pay this wed to give him the amount..and handed in the phone..he promised me that he going to pay for this.. when i am here in America.. unfortunately he won't coz i never stay and spend time with him coz he likes me a lot . i can't be bothered at all coz his not my kind of type.Too much.. i hate this person.

Anyway.. i am planning to moved when its convenient for me.. and plan carefully and work hard so i can pay all the money u help me.. thats the main reasons..and thanks for being here with me.. your such a great person i have..

xxxxx if i can't answered the phone is somewhere .. probably i went to wash the clothes or to the restroom.. so don't get upset dear.. okay? i will ask you for this amount to pay the phone if you intent to.. i know its getting to my nerved that i did this.. but your my family now whose there for me.. so, i won't hesitate to do this.. i don't abused money is just i am trying to have a phone so people can contact me where i am.
Your such an understanding man i ever known..

WELL HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU SOON.. I am fine and thanks for your love..

I hope we can give that money.. to Scott Rollins

Always,

Honey

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Honeyjade,
I need to talk to you again. I have some concerns. You seem really eager to get 9 grand. That's a lot of money. I also don't appreciate you threatening to commit suicide if you don't get you car back. You know I love you and I will do anything for you, but I feel uneasy about some things. I don't like being manipulated. That may not be your intent, but that is the way I feel. I will call you later, ok?
I love you,
xxxxxx

______________________________________________________
Reply-To: "xxxxx" <xxxxxxxxx>
From: "xxxxx" <xxxxxxx>
To: "Honeyjade Ybanez" <blazen_groove>
Subject: Re: [ Spam] sorry
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 06:21:25 -0500


Jade, More than anything else I want to forgive and forget this thing. I =
should have told you in plainer terms what I was doing. I'm sorry.=20
xxxxxx

----- Original Message -----=20
From: Honeyjade Ybanez=20
To: xxxxx=20
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [ Spam] sorry


Sorry.. too.. lets forget about it okay? and where is the money you've sending me..
i was there in Western Union.. and claiming for nothing .. they said no money at all,, reference number you gave me was wrong
so.. call me on that number that i gave it to you..
Honeyjade



I want to apologize if I have upset you. You can always contact me no matter what happens between us. I will always be your friend even if you don't want to talk to me anymore. I am just hurt and upset, and I just wanted to tell you how I feel.
xxxxxxxxx

______________________________________________________
This is from Yahoo Messenger


xxxxxxxxxxxx (1/22/2006 7:59:43 PM): Good Morning !!
xxxxx (1/22/2006 7:59:52 PM):
liberty ybanez (1/22/2006 11:57:43 PM): xxxxxx, i found the place of the studio.. i need some help.. for $800 dollars more.. is that okay. to get some speakers
liberty ybanez (1/22/2006 11:57:56 PM): call me in the morning.. thanks luv yah

xxxxx (1/3/2006 11:10:52 PM): How are you?
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:11:22 PM): hey
xxxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:11:30 PM): What's up?
xxxxxxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:12:00 PM): How are you doing?
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:12:05 PM):
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:12:32 PM): i can't talk much.. i am in the library
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:12:36 PM): whatz up?
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:12:39 PM): ok.
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:13:15 PM): so.. whatz up/
xxxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:13:18 PM): Just keeping busy, I will send you some more money tomarrow night
xxxxxxxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:13:49 PM): The Western Union is close where I live. It is 11pm here
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:14:34 PM): its okay
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:14:35 PM): thanks
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:14:45 PM): and are you alright?
xxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:14:59 PM): It will be about $1300 Austraian currency
xxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:15:06 PM): I'm ok.
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:15:46 PM): its okay
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:15:55 PM): its hard to find a cheap studio
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:16:04 PM): i am tired so much in looking for it
xxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:17:12 PM): What is Canley Heights like? Is it an expensive area?
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:17:46 PM): average
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:17:58 PM): i am dying to get my own place.. for me to start with
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:18:05 PM): and at the same time a studio..
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:18:11 PM): i need it very badly..
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:18:16 PM): so much
xxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:18:59 PM): Did you say you would start working?
xxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:19:11 PM): In January?
xxxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:19:50 PM): You will be busy
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:20:08 PM): i am applying for a job at the same time doing my studio to teach people
xxxx (1/3/2006 11:20:17 PM): Ok
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:20:20 PM): its hard if i got no place to do it..
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:20:30 PM): so.. understand me please..
xxxxxxxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:20:31 PM): I understand
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:20:41 PM): not easy here in sydney.. lot s of requirements
xxxxxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:21:17 PM): what type or requirements?
xxxxxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:23:10 PM):
xxxx (1/3/2006 11:24:36 PM): Let me know when you get you new "pad", so I can come over for the "house warming party"
xxxxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:25:11 PM): I'll get a speed boat and a bunch of gasoline so I can make it in time
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:26:21 PM): i have to go now..
xxxxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:26:21 PM): he he
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:26:22 PM): bye
xxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:26:24 PM): ok.
xxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:26:30 PM): bye
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:26:36 PM): and thanks for the wonderful luv you always given me..
xxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:27:04 PM): YOU ARE ALWAYS ALWAYS WELCOME!!
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:27:10 PM): so, u sending the money by weekend?
xxxxxxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:27:24 PM): Tomarrow night
xxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:27:45 PM): It is Tuesday night here in U.S.
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:27:52 PM): just call me the reference number okay..
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:27:58 PM): I will
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:28:06 PM): and take good care of yourself coz i care..
xxxxxxxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:28:12 PM): I will
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:28:21 PM): thanks
xxxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:28:30 PM):
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:28:52 PM): always
xxxxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:29:00 PM):
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:30:14 PM): ok
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:30:23 PM): when u want me to check the money?
xxxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:32:04 PM): I'll give you a call tomarrow morning (Aussie time) when you get up. I should send it by then
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:34:09 PM): call me at 6:00p.m there if Kaimi answer the phone leave the reference number okay..
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:34:17 PM): bye now and smile for me..
liberty ybanez (1/3/2006 11:34:20 PM): luv yah
xxxxxxxxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:34:38 PM): ok
xxxxxxx (1/3/2006 11:34:49 PM): I love you

xxxxxx (1/4/2006 10:10:38 PM): Good Morning !!
xxxxxxxxx (1/4/2006 10:12:58 PM): I left the MTCN number with Kaimi when I called. Just in case you are at the library and haven't seen her yet, the number is 3127938682
xxxxx (1/4/2006 10:13:43 PM): You should be getting $1,304.61 in Australian currency.

xxxxxxx (3/30/2006 7:36:10 PM): Hey Jade, How are you?
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:36:30 PM): good U?
xxxxx (3/30/2006 7:36:34 PM): ok
xxxxxxx (3/30/2006 7:37:10 PM): was Kaimi upset with me?
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:37:48 PM): what?
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:37:54 PM): naaaa.. just a kid..
xxxxxx (3/30/2006 7:37:59 PM): ok
xxxx (3/30/2006 7:38:32 PM): she advised you not to have a relationship with me?
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:38:36 PM): she's busy with her school and me busy tried to fix my the studio which i need more varnish floor to install coz its carpet
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:38:50 PM): and too expensive like 1500
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:39:04 PM): the square meters is 25.00
xxxxxx (3/30/2006 7:39:54 PM): you said that she advised you never to get married. What is your thoughts on that?
xxxxxx (3/30/2006 7:40:15 PM): I thought you eventually wanted to live in the U.S.?
xxxxxx (3/30/2006 7:42:28 PM): it woud take awhile to get the money, but would it be ok if I could visit you in Australia?
xxxxxx (3/30/2006 7:42:50 PM): I understand if you are tied up with your business for the time being
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:43:36 PM): i have to go now..
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:43:48 PM): just checking my e-mail
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:43:59 PM): i don't think so, if i live states too much to moved in
xxxxxxx (3/30/2006 7:44:10 PM):
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:44:11 PM): no bucks and i am away from my kids
xxxxxx (3/30/2006 7:44:25 PM): you didn't tell me that when you were here
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:44:32 PM): i have a lot of things to accomplish here..
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:44:47 PM): people know me much and its hard to build up again
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:44:55 PM): but i still can visit there of course
xxxxxxxx (3/30/2006 7:45:01 PM): you told my parents that but told me something different
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:45:25 PM): coz, i got a lot of Bills to look after my car payments all the things that i am going through
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:45:46 PM): i am not ready
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:45:51 PM): all this things too much
xxxx (3/30/2006 7:45:59 PM):
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:46:21 PM): got headache
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:46:37 PM): Please don't expect everything..
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:46:44 PM): coz i am so mesirable]
xxxx (3/30/2006 7:46:47 PM): I am not
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:46:51 PM): its not easy when you got kids
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:48:14 PM): well.. times goes by.. and theres lot of things we should think.. my priority is my children
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:48:20 PM): and they grown up so fast
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:48:34 PM): i could only settle down when my youngest would be 15
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:48:40 PM): his 9 at the moment
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:48:47 PM): i think i shouldn't get married
xxxx (3/30/2006 7:48:53 PM): It's just that here I meet a woman who I feel that I have known for a long time, she tells me that she loves me, and I in turn give her everything I have, my heart and my $, to help her because I care about her so much, and then she tells me things diiferently then when I am with her
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:48:55 PM): coz too much too think right now
xxxxxx (3/30/2006 7:49:24 PM): I respect a parent who puts her children first
xxxxx (3/30/2006 7:49:50 PM): I just want to be treated honestly
xxxx (3/30/2006 7:50:10 PM): I would have appreciate it if you told me that back in Utah
xxxx (3/30/2006 7:50:16 PM):
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:50:33 PM): Now Hold on..
xxxxxx (3/30/2006 7:50:35 PM): I have never help anyone like you before
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:50:41 PM): i don't lie to you at all.
xxxxx (3/30/2006 7:50:45 PM): this is night a fight ok?
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:50:59 PM): ghjeee whats up with you.. things here as a solo mum you can't just walk out
xxxxxx (3/30/2006 7:51:07 PM): I didn't mean that you did
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:51:17 PM): especially when you get ripped off you have to settle or my debts and thanks to you
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:51:26 PM): you did help me.. i never forget that
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:51:44 PM): at all and beside i don't like to be bribe coz of the money you help me
xxxxx (3/30/2006 7:51:45 PM): I'm just dissapointed that's all
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:51:57 PM): well.. you want me to get married to you?
xxxxxxxxxx (3/30/2006 7:51:59 PM): I am not bribing
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:52:05 PM): which i am confused at the moment ..?
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:52:23 PM): I think we leave this things at the moment
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:52:24 PM): okay?
xxxx (3/30/2006 7:52:35 PM): what do you mean?
xxxxx (3/30/2006 7:53:10 PM): I'm sorry If i upset you
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:54:03 PM): So, just let me think and don't expect everything too much
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:54:08 PM): coz i don't like that
xxxxxxx (3/30/2006 7:55:23 PM): I was looking forward to seeing you again, and I understand if you are busy. I told you that, but You're my girlfriend right?
xxxxx (3/30/2006 7:55:50 PM): I do not mean to pressure you, just want to know what your plans are
xxxxx (3/30/2006 7:56:26 PM): You did tell me you wanted to eventually settle down, so i thought It would be ok to bring this up
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:56:48 PM): i will go back there when i got plenty of money not now..
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:57:04 PM): well.. my birthd is coming up
xxxxx (3/30/2006 7:57:09 PM): I know
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:57:09 PM): any flowers for me?
xxxxx (3/30/2006 7:57:26 PM): I will send them of course
xxxxx (3/30/2006 7:57:47 PM): do you love me?
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:57:56 PM): anyway.. got to go..
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:58:02 PM): chat you next time
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:58:13 PM): which i always do
xxxx (3/30/2006 7:58:22 PM): how do you fell about me?
xxxxx (3/30/2006 7:59:00 PM): I won't ask anything else tonight
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:59:20 PM): your my good buddy
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 7:59:26 PM): very good loving person
xxxxx (3/30/2006 7:59:54 PM): in the past you told me you love me
liberty ybanez (3/30/2006 8:00:19 PM): got to go..
xxxx (3/30/2006 8:00:31 PM):
xxxxxxx (3/30/2006 8:01:11 PM):

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#2100 by bb1 Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:41 am
For pictures of her look up romancescam.com under the same heading under Scammers from Other Countries

#2101 by ChrisSmith Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:52 am
Hi bb1. I'm sorry you got scammed. It's even worse when the thief is somebody whom you think you can trust.

Regarding the scam itself -
IP shows Australia so this is a definite one for the Authorities.
Take all of your email correspondance to your local police and explain to them exactly what has happened. If the woman is in Australia, there maybe something that the law can do about it. You stand a far better chance trying to prosecute someone in another Western country than if the scammer lives in Africa. It's a slim chance but it's a chance nonetheless.

#2107 by Pat Hamilton Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:35 pm
Rather than go through your local law enforcement, you might like to try emailing our CrimeStoppers website here in Australia with all the information you have and they MIGHT be able to follow this up, especially as you have some useful information about this person that should enable them to track her down. Actually prosecuting her may be more difficult but it's worth a try. You don't have to give your name.

I am very sorry you were scammed and had your heart broken in the process. These 'romance scammers' are the worst of them all in my opinion because of all the damage they cause, and not only to your bank balance.

#3284 by Ralph Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:42 pm
Quote from the police service



Unless the victim makes a complaint there will be no investigation.



I dont suppose we have access to this vic, if we can encourage a police report we may actually be able to get something done, without the report, there is little that can be done.

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