Scams selling or giving away non-existent animals, often Puppy Scams.
#252560 by felicity81323 Sun May 24, 2015 4:56 pm
Thank you so much for this post!!!! I had the same thing happen to me just now and I would be $500 in the hole if it weren't for finding this page!! I posted a want add on kijiji for a puppy and this was the result.....

THEM-Hi,are you still interested ??
ME-Yes. Where are you located?

THEM- From: Zienna Garcia <[email protected]>
>> >>> > Date: 05-24-2015 2:03 AM (GMT-05:00)
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Subject: Re: Reply to your "Looking for a second Frenchton to love
>> >>> > :)"
>> >>> > Ad on
>> >>> > Kijiji
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Hello,
>> >>> > Thanks for emailing in regards to our puppies we have two
>> >>> > puppies
>> >>> > available and they are both a male and a female .Our family takes
>> >>> > great care to make sure these puppies are very socialized and come
>> >>> > with all up to date shots and also seen by our Vet before going to
>> >>> > their new homes.the puppies are just 12 weeks 2days old,vet
>> >>> > checked,
>> >>> > good
>> >>> > temperament with kids and other pets.we exercise regularly and take
>> >>> > the puppies always for a walk! they are purebred . our puppies are
>> >>> > raised in the same home and environment. We live about 10 hrs away
>> >>> > from you ,But if you are not able to come , i will arrange for a
>> >>> > home
>> >>> > delivery cuz i have asked and being told that to take a puppy out
>> >>> > of
>> >>> > the city together with papers will cost $500 for each and i am
>> >>> > giving
>> >>> > them out because my 10yrs old daughter (Jennifer) who was taking
>> >>> > care
>> >>> > of them passed away 5 weeks ago through a car accident when she was
>> >>> > on
>> >>> > her way back from her piano classes so all you will be spending is
>> >>> > $500 for one and $900 for both and that includes delivery to your
>> >>> > home and paperwork
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I will like to ask some few questions if you don't mind.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > -
>> >>> > -Do you have kids?
>> >>> > -Do you have a Vet Doctor?
>> >>> > -What is your occupation?
>> >>> > -Give me a Brief Description about your Environment?
>> >>> > -Where exactly are you located?
>> >>> > -Are you interested in both puppies or just one? if one a male or a
>> >>> > female?
>> >>> > -Have you Ever arrange for a home delivery for a pet?
>> >>> > -Are you willing to get the puppy deliver?
>> >>> > -What breed are you interested in , just to be sure ??
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Sorry for all the questions but i just need to know more
>> >>> > information about the kind of home and environment the puppy will
>> >>> > be
>> >>> > going to. and also once that is done i will get back to you with
>> >>> > their
>> >>> > pic
>> >>> >
>> >>> > and also to explained how everything will go .
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Thanks

ME-First, are the puppies Frenchton?
THEM-yes also get back with answers

ME- Do you have kids? No
>> >> Do you have a Vet Doctor? Yes
>> >> What is your occupation? I have several,
>> >> Estheticain/waitress/manager/landscaper
>> >> Give me a Brief Description about your Environment? I live in a 3
>> >> bedroom
>> >> home by the lake and close to several parks and trails
>> >> Where exactly are you located? Ajax, Ontario
>> >> Are you interested in both puppies or just one? if one a male or a
>> >> female?
>> >> Just one, male or female depending on which one I like
>> >> Have you Ever arrange for a home delivery for a pet? No
>> >> Are you willing to get the puppy deliver? Yes. What is the method of
>> >> delivery?
>> >> What breed are you interested in , just to be sure ?? Frenchton. You
>> >> say
>> >> that they are purebred. I thought that when you breed two different
>> >> breeds
>> >> of dog they are no longer pure...

THEM-Hello,
>> > Thanks for getting back and it is nice to read from you .I just need a
>> > new
>> > and
>> > lovely home for my puppies. So we seek a home where they would be
>> > treated like part
>> > of the family and a home where we could see photos of them to see on
>> > how they are
>> > faring. they have a year health guarantee as confirm by their vet
>> > doctor. They have
>> > all their shot and up to date.i have attached pic ,I am located in
>> > Thunder Bay, ON and it is
>> > going to cost you just 600$ for one and $900 for both puppies to be
>> > deliver
>> > at
>> > your home and process the change of ownership papers from my names to
>> > your
>> > names as the new owner okay am not selling my babies because i love
>> > them so much
>> > i just want to give you a helping hands, so that is why all you will
>> > be paying is
>> > just Kakado or Daisy change of ownership and delivery fee to your
>> > home , I already
>> > have a crate and all what i need in other to get the ownership paper
>> > for Kakado or Daisy
>> > and also to get he or she register and deliver to your home are your
>> > full
>> > home delivery information as below
>> > Full Names........
>> > City.......
>> > Home address.......
>> > post code.......
>> > Cell number......
>> > Home number.......
>> > AS soon as i get this information, i would be getting either the male
>> > or
>> > female
>> > puppy ready and would be taking either or both to the transportation
>> > company
>> > tomorrow morning for registration and book a delivery space for one
>> > or both and
>> > it will take a max of 10 hrs for the puppy to get to your home okay.
>> > You shall be
>> > paying directly upfront to the delivery company for them to deliver
>> > Tina or Titi to your home, you will be paying them first because,
>> > Firstly they will issue you with a home delivery card for the puppy,
>> > secondly They will provide the puppy with temperature regulator
>> > crate.which the puppy will be placed as to regulates the temperature
>> > while on transportation so that nothing like bad weather or climatic
>> > condition will affect the life of the baby while on transportation.
>> > thirdly a change of ownership certificate which will be made from my
>> > names to your names , as to make you are the new and prospective owner
>> > of the puppy , lastly an anti-pressure vaccine which they will provide
>> > for the baby as to give the puppy enough strength and energy, so
>> > once i have the puppy registered , the delivery agency will be
>> > contacting you on phone and email to let you know how you will be
>> > sending the money and also how the puppies will be delivered , that is
>> > the departure and arrival time . They would be coming alongside
>> > the following
>> > the following
>> > Health Certificate
>> > Ckc register certificate
>> > Pedigree
>> > Vet Record
>> > Nutritive supplement
>> > Sleeping sets
>> > Travel crate
>> > Toys
>> > i have attached their pics

ME- I've never done this before so I'm very leary of the whole situation. I
>> > hope
>> > you can appreciate the fact that I'm hesitant because it's a lot of
>> > money to
>> > part with if this is not real. Also, your first message said 500 and
>> > your
>> > second said 600. Would I be able to talk to you over the phone to
>> > discuss?

THEM-Ohh that would have been great but am disable , am deaf , i hate to
>> talk about it , i have done so many surgery but still no improvement ,
>> i was not born deaf but all of a sudden i started having problem with
>> my ears and that is how its started getting worst until now that i
>> cant get nothing
>>
>>
>> I'm very sorry to hear you sounding skeptic ,it seems
>> that you are thinking that I wanted to take your money for what is not
>> real, or I'm trying to take an advantages over you and your money. When
>> I know how people work very hard and make their money,so I will never
>> think about taking their money for what is not real...... Try to
>> understand me better.
>>
>> I don't have the money to ship the puppy to you right now, if
>> I had the money, I'm such a woman that can "truly give away her eyes to
>> a complete stranger", I'm a honest woman. And I truly know how hurt it
>> will be for some to take away my money like that.
>>
>> I know that there are some people out there who have no conscience
>> whatever
>> and will rip fellow human beings of hard earned dollars. They forget
>> to know that
>> what goes around comes around. I am a christian and for no reason on
>> earth
>> will i deceive a fellow human being who has a soul like me. God will
>> not forgive
>> me and my conscience will never let me sleep.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks and I will wait to hear from you asap........My regards to your
>> Family,Please say to them that Kakado or Daisy are ready to move to a
>> new home
>> with them...waiting to read from you

ME-What is the name of the shipping company that will be shipping the
>> > puppy?
>> > How do I pay? Where in Thunder Bay do you live? I have family there and
>> > perhaps they could come and get the puppy from you and bring it to me.

THEM- i will be using pet relocating limited because am familiar with them
>> and more to that they are one of he best here in our city also at the
>> moment am in Winnipeg on a trip and the puppies are with me that why i
>> need an urgent home .

ME-Even better, I have family there leaving to drive home on Wednesday. Can I
> get an address for where you are staying so that I can have them come to see
> the puppies?

THEM-sorry that is not going to work

I don't have family that could have brought me the puppy in either case, however it was mentioned in the first email......This bitch was so good that I actually felt bad for her at first, then I thought.....who gives out the fact that their 10 year old just died to a perfect stranger when you are trying to "give away" a puppy.

I hope someone finds a way to catch this person. My last message to them was a link to this thread ;)
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#252571 by Mike Wilson Sun May 24, 2015 7:00 pm
Hello felicity81323,
I am glad that you discovered the scam before you lost any money to these criminals. Everything they told you was a lie and part of the script they use to steal money from unsuspecting victims.
In the future please do not let the scammer know where you posted the information because it will only take them a few minutes to create a new email address and continue with their criminal activities.

If you have any additional questions about this scam please ask.

It is ALWAYS a scam
If the pet seller or shipper asks for money to be sent via Western Union, Money Gram, any brand of gift card. Walmart To Walmart , Zelle , PayPal friends and family option, or mentions Cameroon

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