Room for Rent and other rental scams
#283832 by Michelle Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:12 am
On Feb 4, 2016 2:50 PM, "Steve Jages" <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello,

I received an e-mail regarding your interest in my apartment in 66 BAY Street South, Hamilton, ON, L8P 4Z6, Canada. The apartment will be available for renting for the next 6 years because the company I work for has won an auction project in London, United Kingdom. I work as an engineer in telecom industry. I bought the apartment 6 months ago while I was in Canada working for a project that what supposed to be for the next 10 years but unfortunately it was canceled. I am the single owner, the apartment is fully paid and no mortgage loan. The apartment is vacant since I no longer live there. The apartment is exactly like in the pictures, fully furnished, fully equipped, so you won't need anything to move in. Of course if you want you can use your furniture and I will ask the movers to remove mine and deposit it in the storage unit located near the building. Pets are allowed.
The monthly rent for the whole unit is 810CAD with everything included (utilities, cable and internet-full package, 2 parking spots underground, storage unit, laundry in-suite, washer and dryer). You can rent the apartment for an indefinite period. The price will not increase for the whole period that you will stay there. I would also like to know how many people will live in the apartment and also which rental contract do you prefer- 6 months or 1 year rental contract with option of renewal. I will be away for a period of 6 years and as you can see I'm not asking so much for it because I want to find a responsible tenant to take good care of the place. I'm not looking to make a business or a profit with the apartment. The monthly payments can be wired to my Canadian Bank Account or we can use any other payment method that is suitable for you.
I'm 40 years old, I'm married and we have a 5 years old daughter, and as I mentioned above I work as an engineer in telecom industry. I want to rent the place on my own so I need to know if you are really interested in the apartment.

Sincerely,
Steve Jages


From: Steve Jages <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: 66 Bay

Hi there,

Thank you for getting back to me. If you are still interested me and my wife agreed to rent the apartment to you. I promise you that you will love the place. You seem to be a nice person and I can assure you we will not have any kind of problems in the place. Everything in the place is new and renovated but just in case repairs are needed I will cover the costs no worries.
At this moment I'm located in London, United Kingdom and I will stay here for the next 6 years. Obviously you will have to see the apartment before discussing further details because you cannot rent an apartment that you haven't seen. I am willing to send you the keys so you can visit it and see if it suits your needs.
The delivery for the keys (keys for the apartment and storage unit, key-card access for parking and apartment door.) and lease agreement (signed by me), will be made through a worldwide third party company called Zoopla (www.zoopla.co.uk) to make sure that we can trust each other.

You will only have to deposit to Zoopla the first month of rent from contract and damage deposit, a total of 1300CAD. You don't need to open an account with Zoopla because this transaction is a rental and the Landlord must open the transaction.

Here is the procedure explained :

1 - To start the process all I need is your full info(full name, shipping address and a cell phone number where you can be reached)
2 - I will go at Zoopla to deposit the keys and the contract on your name as the intended receiver.
3 - Zoopla will check the package to see if everything is in order and also the legal papers that will come along with the keys and proof of ownership with their Real Estate Professional Department in London. They will also confirm with the building management that I'm the legal owner of the apartment I'm renting to you.
4 - Zoopla will send you a delivery notification to let you know they have the keys and the papers in their custody. They will also send you all the payment instructions to complete the rental transaction.
5 - At this point you will have to make a money deposit on the Zoopla payments representative for the amount we agreed, the total amount you shall deposit for the first month of rent and damage deposit. The payment needs to be sent within 24 hours after you receive the transaction details or else they will charge me an additional fee.
6 - After you make the deposit you will have to send the payment details to Zoopla.
7 - Zoopla will verify the transfer and if everything is in order they will start the delivery through licensed shipping company such as DHL or UPS. The delivery will take 2-3 business days.
8 - After you receive the package, you will go and check the apartment and in 5 business days (inspection time) you must contact Zoopla to inform them if you keep the apt or not and if everything is in order you will instruct Zoopla to send me the information about the money deposit and I will be able to receive the funds. If you don`t like the apartment the pamyent will be full refunded to you. Zoopla can NOT release the funds without your approval. Also the inspection time of 5 days will start from the moment you will be at the building.

Using Zoopla involves three parties: me as owner, you as a potential tenant and Zoopla as a responsible third party authorized to handle this transaction. Zoopla works the same way as the escrow account on which you place the deposit when you rent an apartment, except that instead of a bank, we use Zoopla. Of course, nobody can take that money until you will sign the lease agreement.

You need to know everything about the process before we get this started. I think is right for both of us. If you have any other questions you can reach me any time at: 44 020 8144 7376 (if you are calling from Canada or United States you need to dial 011-44-20-8144-7376) or you can email me and I will respond ASAP.

Let me know if you have the funds available (1300CAD$) so we can move forward and e-mail me your full information I requested.

Thanks


This person asks for a deposit payment via Western Union, MoneyGram, pre-paid credit card or bank transfer with a promise that you can have the keys to a property that does not belong to him.

Sounds safe. It's not!

At other times, he will ask for proof that you are able to pay the deposit and rent due to a string of time wasters.
This proof is in the form of a Western Union or MoneyGram payment to a lawyer,a friend or family member.

In either case, if payment is made and you give this person the details, they will collect the money.
You will not hear from them again.

All the details such as names, addresses, pictures etc. that the scammer uses in order to back up his story, are stolen from elsewhere.

If you are reading this because you are looking for property to rent, and you are in contact with this thief you are probably searching Craigslist, Gumtree or similar listing sites. If you receive any requests from 'Landlords' asking for some kind of payment before viewing, then it will also be a scam. Please forward the mail to me at the address in my signature line and I will investigate and list them if necessary.

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#283915 by Michelle Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:44 pm
Now with a change of Phone Number

from: Steve Jages <[email protected]>

You need to know everything about the process before we get this started. I think is right for both of us. If you have any other questions you can reach me any time at: 44 020 3239 5827 (if you are calling from Canada or United States you need to dial 011-44-20-3239-5827) or you can email me and I will respond ASAP
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#284749 by Awakendwind Tue Feb 16, 2016 6:37 pm
My husband I were nearly sucked in to this "too good be true" scam. Good thing we do our research and make phone calls. Especially after receiving extensive emails from this criminal. Finalized after we saw this post from Michelle. Instead of using Zoopla he used OwnersDirect. I feel the need to to f#¢k with him a little bit. Thank you Michelle for it research. :=)
#284910 by BethanyJ Thu Feb 18, 2016 10:28 am
I was almost taken in by this as well. The ad was for an apartment in High Park, Toronto. The name the scammer was using is Paul Sarbel, and he was trying to use OwnersDirect. Glad I googled his number! Remember that potential landlords who require a deposit before you rent is a major red flag!
#288650 by sdiana87 Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:55 pm
Hello,

The apartment at 1515 Avenue du Docteur-Penfield, Montreal, QC H3G 2R8, Canada is still available. My name is Victor Base, I'm a graphic designer and the company I work for has developed a project in London, United Kingdom that will take 6 years minimum. Therefore the apartment will be available for renting for the next 6 years. I bought the apartment 5 months ago while I was in Canada working for another project that unfortunately it was canceled. Initially I tried to sell the place but I didn't get the price I want it so I decided along with my family that we should rent it as long as I'm away. The apartment is vacant since I no longer live there so you can move-in anytime you want. Everything is just like in the pictures, it's fully furnished, fully equipped. Of course if you want, you can use your furniture and I will ask the movers to remove mine and deposit it in the storage unit located near the building. Pets are allowed.
The monthly rent for the whole unit is 850CAD with everything included (utilities, cable and internet-full package, 2 parking spots underground, strata fees, storage unit, laundry in-suite washer and dryer). The price of the rent will not increase for the whole period that you will stay there. I would like to know how many people will live in the apartment and also which rental contract do you prefer- 6 months or 1 year rental contract with option of renewal. I will be away for the next 6 years and as you can see I'm not asking so much for it because I want to find a responsible tenant to take good care of the place. I'm not looking to make a business or a profit with the apartment. I have a Canadian Bank account for the monthly payments, or we can use any other payment method that is suitable for you.
I'm 50 years old, I'm married, we have a beautiful 10 years old daughter. My family means everything to me, they come first in everything I do. I worked hard to have a good career therefore I want to rent the place on my own so I need to know if you are really interested in the apartment.


Sincerely,
Victor


----then he said:
Hi there,

Thank you for getting back to me. If you are still interested me and my wife agreed to rent the apartment to you. I promise you that you will love the place. You seem to be a nice person and I can assure you we will not have any kind of problems in the place. Everything in the place is new and renovated but just in case repairs are needed I will cover the costs no worries.
Now I'm located in London, United Kingdom and I will stay here for the next 6 years. Obviously you will have to see the apartment before discussing further details because you cannot rent an apartment that you haven't seen. I am willing to send you the keys so you can visit it and see if it suits your needs.
The delivery for the keys (keys for the apartment and storage unit, key-card access for parking and apartment door.) and lease agreement (signed by me), will be made through a worldwide third party company called Zoopla (http://www.zoopla.co.uk) to make sure that we can trust each other.

You will only have to deposit to Zoopla a total of 1300CAD that will represent 1st month of rent from contract +damage deposit(refundable in the last month of rent from contract). You don't need to open an account with Zoopla because this transaction is a rental and the Landlord (Owner) must open the transaction.

Here is the procedure explained:


1 - To start the process all I need is your complete information(full name, shipping address and a cell phone number where you can be reached)
2 - I will go at Zoopla to deposit the keys and the lease agreement on your name as the intended receiver.
3 - Zoopla will check the package to see if everything is in order and also the legal papers that will come along with the keys and proof of ownership with their Real Estate Professional Department in London. They will also confirm with the building management that I'm the legal owner of the apartment I'm renting to you.
4 - Zoopla will send you a notification through email to let you know they have the keys and the papers in their custody. They will also send you all the payment information to complete the rental transaction.
5 - At this point you will have to make a money deposit on the Zoopla payments representative for the amount we agreed, the total amount you shall deposit for the first month of rent and damage deposit. The payment needs to be sent within 24 hours after you receive the transaction details or else they will charge me an additional fee.
6 - After you make the deposit you will have to send the payment details to Zoopla.
7 - Zoopla will verify the transfer and if everything is in order they will start the delivery through licensed shipping company such as DHL or UPS. The delivery will take 3 business days.
8 - After you receive the package, you will go and check the apartment and in 5 business days (inspection time) you must contact Zoopla to inform them if you keep the apt or not. So if you decide to move-in the apartment you will notify Zoopla so they can send the payment on my name. If you don`t like the apartment the payment will be full refunded to you. Zoopla can NOT release the funds without your approval. Also the inspection time of 5 days will start from the moment you will be at the building.

Using Zoopla involves three parties: me as owner, you as a potential tenant and Zoopla as a responsible third party authorized to handle this transaction. Zoopla works the same way as the escrow account on which you place the deposit when you rent an apartment, except that instead of a bank, we use Zoopla. Of course, nobody can take that money until you will sign the lease agreement.

You need to know everything about the process before we get this started. I think is right for both of us. If you have any other questions you can reach me any time at: 44 020 3239 5827 (if you are calling from Canada or United States you need to dial 011-44-20-3239-5827) or you can email me and I will respond ASAP.

Let me know if you have the funds available (1300CAD$) so we can move forward and e-mail me your full information I requested.

Thanks
Last edited by Bryon Williams on Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:14 pm, edited 1 time in total. Reason: Added quotations.
#288651 by sdiana87 Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:56 pm
i emailed zoopla....and they said

Re: Buyer enquiry from Zoopla Property Group
[Removed AJ] Add to contacts 1:09 PM Keep this message at the top of your inbox

Cc: Zoopla Support
[Removed AJ]

I'm afraid it's a scam and a common one (always Canada for some reason). Zoopla is just a website. They don't take deposits or hold keys. I am cc'ing their Support Team so they can ask you any questions they may have to stop this scammer in future.

Well done for being suspicious and better luck next time!

[Removed AJ]
Mayfair Office and Mayfair International Realty
Sent from my iPad
Last edited by Bryon Williams on Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:06 pm, edited 2 times in total. Reason: ITP details removed
#289052 by helanmarie Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:45 pm
Just had this exact email sent back to me word for word! :evil: :evil: :evil:
Hi there,

Thank you for getting back to me. If you are still interested me and my wife agreed to rent the apartment to you. I promise you that you will love the place. You seem to be a nice person and I can assure you we will not have any kind of problems in the place. Everything in the place is new and renovated but just in case repairs are needed I will cover the costs no worries.
Now I'm located in London, United Kingdom and I will stay here for the next 6 years. Obviously you will have to see the apartment before discussing further details because you cannot rent an apartment that you haven't seen. I am willing to send you the keys so you can visit it and see if it suits your needs.
The delivery for the keys (keys for the apartment and storage unit, key-card access for parking and apartment door.) and lease agreement (signed by me), will be made through a worldwide third party company called Zoopla (http://www.zoopla.co.uk) to make sure that we can trust each other.

You will only have to deposit to Zoopla a total of 1300CAD that will represent 1st month of rent from contract +damage deposit(refundable in the last month of rent from contract). You don't need to open an account with Zoopla because this transaction is a rental and the Landlord (Owner) must open the transaction.

Here is the procedure explained:


1 - To start the process all I need is your complete information(full name, shipping address and a cell phone number where you can be reached)
2 - I will go at Zoopla to deposit the keys and the lease agreement on your name as the intended receiver.
3 - Zoopla will check the package to see if everything is in order and also the legal papers that will come along with the keys and proof of ownership with their Real Estate Professional Department in London. They will also confirm with the building management that I'm the legal owner of the apartment I'm renting to you.
4 - Zoopla will send you a notification through email to let you know they have the keys and the papers in their custody. They will also send you all the payment information to complete the rental transaction.
5 - At this point you will have to make a money deposit on the Zoopla payments representative for the amount we agreed, the total amount you shall deposit for the first month of rent and damage deposit. The payment needs to be sent within 24 hours after you receive the transaction details or else they will charge me an additional fee.
6 - After you make the deposit you will have to send the payment details to Zoopla.
7 - Zoopla will verify the transfer and if everything is in order they will start the delivery through licensed shipping company such as DHL or UPS. The delivery will take 3 business days.
8 - After you receive the package, you will go and check the apartment and in 5 business days (inspection time) you must contact Zoopla to inform them if you keep the apt or not. So if you decide to move-in the apartment you will notify Zoopla so they can send the payment on my name. If you don`t like the apartment the payment will be full refunded to you. Zoopla can NOT release the funds without your approval. Also the inspection time of 5 days will start from the moment you will be at the building.

Using Zoopla involves three parties: me as owner, you as a potential tenant and Zoopla as a responsible third party authorized to handle this transaction. Zoopla works the same way as the escrow account on which you place the deposit when you rent an apartment, except that instead of a bank, we use Zoopla. Of course, nobody can take that money until you will sign the lease agreement.

You need to know everything about the process before we get this started. I think is right for both of us. If you have any other questions you can reach me any time at: 44 020 3239 5827 (if you are calling from Canada or United States you need to dial 011-44-20-3239-5827) or you can email me and I will respond ASAP.

Let me know if you have the funds available (1300CAD$) so we can move forward and e-mail me your full information I requested.

Thanks

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