Room for Rent and other rental scams
#313805 by Bryon Williams Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:37 pm
David George < [email protected] > wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> Thank you for your interest in my apartment located in 763 Bay St,
> M5G 0A6. The apartment is in excellent condition and it's just like in
> the pictures, very clean and very well taken. Honestly from point of
> view I'm sure that you will rent it on spot. I'm not looking to make a
> business or a profit with the apartment, I'm just trying to find a
> good and trust person to take good care of the place. It is furnished
> but if you want you can use your furniture and deposit mine in the
> storage unit that is located near the building not far away. The rent
> is 800 CAD/month with everything included (heat, hydro, water,
> electricity, cable and internet-full package, laundry in-suite,
> washer and dryer). You will have full access to all the amenities of
> the building. Pets are allowed. I stayed in the apartment with my wife
> for 3 months. I'm a civil engineer and I work for a company that has
> an auction for a project in construction in London, United Kingdom,
> so my accommodation period in England will be about 4 years.
> Everything in the apartment is new so there will be
> no need for repairs.
>
> Thank you and look forward hearing from you!
> David
>
> PS: I attached you all the pictures that I have with the apartment (as
> you can see everything is in absolutely perfect condition).


> From: David George <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: $800CAD Modern Studio in Downtown
>
> Hello xxxxxxxxxxx,
>
> Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately there is a problem showing you the apartment, because I already left with my job in United Kingdom, and the keys are with me. Before I had to leave for United Kingdom I had someone interested in the apartment, he said that he will take the apartment, I waited for him, but unfortunately he didn't managed to get the money to rent it, I had to leave and I was unable to rent the apartment when I was still there. Obviously this brought me financial loss. So I can tell that I have a bitter experience of making reservation, for this reason I decided to use an specialized company in this kind of transactions.
>
> As I told you before the rent for 1 month will be 800CAD with no extra fees and you will have full access to all the amenities of the building. The price will not increase for the whole period that you will stay there. I would also like to know how many people will live in the apartment and also which rental contract do you prefer- 6 months or 1 year rental contract with option of renewal. The monthly payments can be wired to my Canadian Bank Account (TD Bank) or we can setup a payment method that is suitable for both of us.
>
> The apartment is in excellent condition, you only need to receive the keys and the contract so you could check it out, and see if you like it. Since at this moment I'm in London, United Kingdom and obviously we need a safe way to complete this deal.The solution is a worldwide third party company called Airbnb Property Management (http://www.airbnb.com/trust),they will provide assistance in handling the payment and delivery of the rental package.
>
> We use this company to see that you are an trusting and serious person. They will provide assistance in handling the payment and delivery of the rental package. With this procedure you will be able to check the apartment before I receive the payment. Please be aware that is NOT necessary for you to register with Airbnb for this transaction, I've made over 5 transactions with them so far. They are really professional and they have great services.
>
> My phone number is +442035145957. You can call me or e-mail anytime you wish.
>
> Let me know if you are interested so I can provide with all the steps of this transaction. You need to know everything about this process before we get this started. I think is right for both of us.
>
> Thank you and hope to hear from you soon!
> David


This person asks for a deposit payment via Western Union, MoneyGram, pre-paid credit card or bank transfer with a promise that you can have the keys to a property that does not belong to him.

Sounds safe. It's not!

At other times, he will ask for proof that you are able to pay the deposit and rent due to a string of time wasters.
This proof is in the form of a Western Union or MoneyGram payment to a lawyer,a friend or family member.

In either case, if payment is made and you give this person the details, they will collect the money.
You will not hear from them again.

All the details such as names, addresses, pictures etc. that the scammer uses in order to back up his story, are stolen from elsewhere.

If you are reading this because you are looking for property to rent, and you are in contact with this thief you are probably searching Craigslist, Gumtree or similar listing sites. If you receive any requests from 'Landlords' asking for some kind of payment before viewing, then it will also be a scam. Please forward the mail to me at the address in my signature line and I will investigate and list them if necessary.

Please contacta moferatorstor if you have a question or information about this post.



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#313978 by Bryon Williams Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:35 pm
David George < [email protected] > wrote:

> Hi again,
>
> This transaction is not made face to face, this is the whole reason for using Airbnb, for both of us to be 100% protected. For security and for your peace of mind I had attached an copy of my PASSPORT to build up some confidence. Also please read this email carefully, I know that is very long, but it has all the transaction details.
>
> Regarding the process, you will only have to deposit to Airbnb the first month rent + damage deposit, an total of 1300$CAD (800+500) so they can proceed with the shipping, and you can receive the rental package (keys and documents). I will pay for a 2 days delivery so you will receive the keys and the contract signed by me right away. I will explain you step by step how this process will work:
>
> 1 - To start the process all I need is your full info (full name, address and a cell phone number).
> 2 - I will go at Airbnb to deposit the keys and the contract on your name as the intended receiver.
> 3 - Airbnb will check the package to see if everything is in order and also the legal papers that will come along with the keys and proof of ownership with their Real Estate Professional Department in London. They will also confirm that I'm the legal owner of the apartment I'm renting to you.
> 4 - Airbnb will send you a delivery notification to let you know they have the keys and the papers in their custody. They will also send you all the payment instructions to complete the rental transaction.
> 5 - At this point you will have to make a money deposit on the Airbnb account for the amount we agreed, the total amount you shall deposit for the first month of rent. The payment needs to be sent within 24 hours after you receive the transaction details or else they will charge me an additional fee.
> 6 - After you make the deposit you will have to send the payment details to Airbnb.
> 7 - Airbnb will verify the transfer and if everything is in order they will start the shipping procedures using UPS Next Day Shipping Service.
> 8 - After you receive the package, you will go by yourself and check the apartment and in 5 days (inspection time) you must contact Airbnb to inform them if you keep the apt or not and if everything is in order you will instruct Airbnb to send me the information about the money deposit and I will be able to receive the funds. If you don`t like the apartment they will be sending the money back to you and you will send back the keys and contract. Airbnb can't release the funds without your approval.
>
> Using Airbnb involves three parties: me as owner, you as a potential tenant and Airbnb as a responsible third party authorized to handle this transaction. Airbnb works the same way as the escrow account on which you place the deposit when you rent an apartment, except that instead of a bank, we use Airbnb . Of course, nobody can take that money until you will sign the lease agreement.
>
> Let me know if you have the funds available (1300CAD$) so we can move forward and e-mail me your full information I requested. Any further questions regarding the transaction you can call or e-mail me.
>
> Thanks
> David


David George <[email protected]> wrote:

> Good morning,
>
> I want to inform you that I already started this transaction and I went to the Airbnb office here in London, I gave them the keys, and all legal papers.
>
> They verified everything and they started this process. From my part the transaction has been started as we agreed and I have done my part of the process (now it is your turn).
>
> Can you please tell me if:
>
> # Airbnb contacted you? IF NOT PLEASE VERIFY ALSO YOUR SPAM FOLDER (maybe their email got there).
>
> # Did you understood the process etc?
>
> # You need help in understanding the process?
>
> Also, please feel free to phone or email me if you have any questions regarding the transaction!
>
> Thanks
> David


> From: David George <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: $800CAD Modern Studio in Downtown
>
> Hi,
>
> I will answer your questions below:
>
> 1. If you have mailed the keys we need a tracking number and why does Airbnb need to wait for our payment before they mail the keys to us?
> THE RENTAL PACKAGE IS IN THE AIRBNB CUSTODY, THEY WILL SHIP THE PACKAGE TO YOU, ONLY AFTER YOU WILL SEND THEM THE DEPOSIT.
>
> 2. There is a fax number and email address from Airbnb but no phone number and it shows a different number when you google Airbnb.
> THIS IS AN LONG TERM RENTAL AND OTHER TERMS AND CONDITIONS APPLIES, THIS IS WHY I WENT TO THEIR OFFICE TO START THE TRANSACTION, WE ARE NOT USING THE WEBSITE (VANCATION RENTALS) FOR THIS TRANSACTION.
>
> 3. Moneygram? Is it affiliated with Airbnb? I have used Airbnb before and I pay through Visa.
> SEE POINT 2.
>
> 4. I called Airbnb and you need to have an account with them. I am surprise why you tell me I don't need one.
> SEE POINT 2.
>
> 5. The contract looks empty. Should it be between you and me only and not include Airbnb. Airbnb is just there to deliver the keys and contract as you have mentioned.
> THE CONTRACT YOU RECEIVED IT'S BETWEEN YOU ME AND AIRBNB, THE OFFICIAL LEASE IS IN THE RENTAL PACKAGE ALONG WITH THE KEYS.
> 6. We went to the address and the postal code does not even exist so I don't know where in that building is your apartment.
> WHAT DOES THE POSTAL CODE MATTER? THE ADDRESS IS 763 Bay St.
>
> Thanks
> David


This Scammer will arrange to send you an Invoice -- Make no mistake, the Invoice will be fake !
If you are reading this because you have received such an invoice, kindly forward it to the address in my signature line and I will report the details to the appropriate authorities.

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