Room for Rent and other rental scams
#137591 by Mochi Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:56 am
So sorry for you... I felt exactly the same thing about this, how people can do that?

For the bank, they told you there was nothing to do? Because mine tried to cancel the transaction, i know there's not a lot of hope but if you did it a few days ago (let's say less than 4-5 days), maybe there's a way to cancel. I'll also go to see the police but i don't know how they can act with this...
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#137792 by torkilve Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:35 pm
Hi.
This scammer is still at large, he has an ad up in Norway on the biggest subletting-site Finn.no
http://www.finn.no/finn/realestate/lettings/object?finnkode=38711322
When you contact him the mail is sent to [email protected] but the reply comes from Paul Anderson <[email protected]> with the exact same text as mentioned over.

Thanks in part too google and this forum I was able to figure it out before going further. Thanks!
#137936 by Mochi Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:38 pm
Ok, this website http://truliaimmo-uk.com/ has been detected as a phishing website. That is great but it won't stop the scammers; so this is really important to detect all the fakes websites they use and prevent the access... How can we do that? I just want to stop those people, i can't stand that they keep on acting like that...
#138530 by dylanhoss Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:29 pm
The post below was made by a scammer in order to thieve from individuals with a "Recovery Scam".
You can see a good example of how recovery scams work in the following link
http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=10869

Do not contact the person using the name "Dylan Hoss" who made the post below!

Hello, my name is Dylan Hoss and i work with the Cyber crime task forces at Internet Crime Complaint, http://www.ic3.gov and we`re building a major case against this guy, my personal email address is [email protected], if you can forward me all your conversation with this guy along including all "contracts" he sent it will help me and others a lot catching him. It`s your choice and thanks for taking time to read my message
Dylan
#145138 by bhogenelst Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:26 am
I think I ran into the same guy. He name's himself Paul Anderson.
I got exactly the same email while looking for a appartment in Amsterdam. He also told me that he bought it for his son who got back to the UK and he said that he is a Neuro-Oncologist. I'm glad I found this forum, thanks you guys!
His email address is now: [email protected]
He also wanted me to pay Trulia Real Estate 800,- euro's to make the deal.. Glad I didn't do that.

hope they find the bastard!
#145633 by lesleyf3 Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:10 pm
Hi guys,

Nearly fell for this tonight in Dublin. He is going by the name of Paul Ian Williamson now but thankfully I searched for Trulia IMB and saw all of you talking about it!!!! Thanks!!!!

He was renting out a flat in one of the best areas in Dublin for only 650 euro. Hope people see this tonight before they fall for it!!
#146378 by olgab Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:43 pm
Seems like Adam Konowalski has manage to inherit an apartment in Dublin and moved on from Trulia...

Found a great apartment, just what we we're looking for. Finally got a mail back from the advertiser, Adam Konowalski, which I answered. After this the rentalsite sent me an email to inform me that this might be a scam. Got a new email from Adam, but with the warning that there might me something fishy going on, did some googling and found my way here.

Can't copy paste right now, I'll but the whole mails here later. The mails are almost word to word the same as here, except that the apartment is inherited from his grandfather, he's in Britain and the company who will handle the money/key transfer is called HF Rentals, which I can't find a website for in Ireland.
#148408 by rosiejones Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:31 am
Justin is still at it only now his/her name is Annie Cranford. got the same message as Justin sends about having bought the apartment for her son who is now living permanently in London.
I was suspicious when I read the message so decided to check it out. Who tells you their own profession when they are renting an apt. The moral of the story is 'If it sounds too good to be true, then it generally is!'
#148520 by rosiejones Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:43 am
True to form and previous posts here is the reply I got from 'Annie Cranford' today
Hello


"Thank you for your reply but the thing is that I'm in United Kingdom already. Like I have inform you before, the price you must pay on the first month of rent will be 600 eur + 600 eur security deposit ( 1200 eur ), with no extra fees . I must have one month rent + security deposit from you. The money, I want to receive it monthly to my bank account, so I hope it will be no problem for you to wire the money to my bank account. The apartment is ready for you, you will need only to receive the keys and the contract to check it, and see if you like it. Obviously we need a way to complete this deal, that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are after. So i have found a way for us to complete the deal safely and fast, and in this way you will receive the Keys in less than 2 days, if you move fast as well . The solution is provided by a rental company called Trulia Real Estate which is similar to FedEx or UPS , Escrow ... etc, which will handle both payment and delivery of the keys. I have found a procedure that will allow you receive the keys of it and through this way you will see it and decide if you will stay in the apt or not before I receive my payment. To start this transaction, I need your full name, address and telephone number. I will also need to know the rental period and the day you want to move in so I can put it in the contract. I will pay for the services of the agency, so there will be no costs for you. Also, in case you have another apartment right now, and you cannot move out immediately, we can make the deal as I explained it now, and consider it only an inspection and reservation.
I look forward to hear from you soon."
#150103 by Elsie137 Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:20 am
My 70 year old mom nearly fell for this...

The intermediary estate agent is now called HF real estate (hf-realestate.com), that site was set up 14 days ago by Soren Reinhard in Stockholm Sweden, phone 00460705466446, email [email protected].

Email addresses used by scam:
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

Email templates:
@@@@@@@@@@
<[email protected]>
Hello,

Thanks for your interest . I inherited the apartment from my grandfather when he past away i am from United Kingdom , Bristol so i decided to rent it. Before we go further, I would like to know a little about you, such as how many persons you intend to have staying in the apartment and for how long also if you can send me a picture it will be nice . I will be glad to rent it to anyone who likes to keep it clean and tidy. I can rent out the flat for unlimited time ( 1 to 5 years maybe more ) . I can also rent it for short periods (2-3 months minimum). The rent for 1 month is EUR 450 including all utilities . You may use my furniture, or you can use your own , it's the same thing for me . I have the option of sending all my furniture to storage, if you want to bring your own (no extra cost). You can move in to the apartment on the same day that you receive the keys. The only problem is that I am the only person who has the keys, but i have a solution for that if you are still interested . Thank you for your interest and I look forward to hear from you soon. Thanks

@@@@@@@@@@
<[email protected]>
Hi again ,

Thanks for your reply, but the problem is that I am already in United Kingdom. As I informed you, the price you will have to pay the first month rent of 450 + 450 EUR deposit ( 900 EUR), with no additional fees . I need from you one month rent plus deposit. I want to receive the money monthly in my bank account. I trust that there is no problem for you to send money to my bank account . The apartment is ready , you just need to receive the keys and the contract to check it, and see if you can accept it. Of course we will need some way to go through this agreement, to allow us ensure that we get what we are expecting. For in it, I have discovered how we could finish the deal securely and quickly, and in this way, you will receive the keys in less than 2 days, if you move quickly as well. A rental third party service called HF Rentals , which corresponds to FedEx or UPS Escrow .. etc , offers this solution and will handle both payment and delivery of the keys.In this way, you may see it and decide if you want to live in the apartment or not, before I receive any payment. To start this transaction, I need your full name, address, city, postcode and country . I will also have to know the rental period and the day you want to move in, so I can put it in the contract. I will pay for the services performed by the agency, so there will not be any additional cost to you. In addition, if you have another apartment right now, and you cannot move out immediately, we can come to an agreement as I have explained here, and consider it only an inspection and reservation.I will wait your quick response, because there are other people waiting for my answer too, so i need to know if I can count on a deal with you . Thank You

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<[email protected]>
Dear (), the tracking number for your transaction is: ()

This email confirms that the transaction was started by Christopher Birch (owner) and you mult send the total of EUR 900.00 must be sent to one of our agent. We require the payment to be made through Bank Account Transfer, you'll find the details below.

Go to () to view the status of your keys or check the status periodically.

Packaging informations:
Transaction number: ()
Transaction date: ()
Rental price: EUR 900.00
Total: EUR 900.00
Package description: Apartament Keys and rental contract.

Delivery to the following address:
()

Payment informations:
Send the total amount of EUR 900.00
to our HFRealestate Bank Account.

Account Name : HF Rentals.(E.Fonda)
Account Number : 83561739
IBAN : GB83-BARC-204734-83561739
SWIFT : BARCGB22
Bank Name : Barclays
SortCode : 20-47-34
Bank Address : 611 Roman Road. London, E3 2RR, UK

Sender Details:
Name : Christopher Birch
Address : 233 Wells Road
City, State : Bristol, BS4 2DF
Post Code, Country : United Kingdom
#150115 by TerranceBoyce Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:26 am
http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=48793&p=150103

The name of Barclays Bank keeps cropping up as a bank particularly favoured by fraudsters. :twisted:

It's not good business to be seen by fraudsters as a pushover, or to have your account holders seen as having a greater than normal risk of being scammers.

Any body offering escrow services in the UK must be registered and regulated by the FSA and this must be quoted on their website so that people can double check it. This makes the matter a whole lot worse. Operating the account of a fake and unauthorised fraudulent escrow company. :roll: It's almost like a bank holding the account of a fake bank. :yikes:

It's a disgrace that such a bank account has lasted so long.

Their previous scam website was http://rentestatte.com

and from this screenshot it can be seen to have been, more or less, a clone

http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1668&u=16308077

CAR ADVERTS - If a car seller mentions escrow - he's scamming you Never ever for any reason pay anything until you have seen and inspected the vehicle
#150122 by TerranceBoyce Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:19 am
Another clone.

http://zillow-real-rents.com

and another

http://kasianoss.com

I'll propose them for incineration. :twisted:

More to come.

Thank heavens - a new template, but the same scam.

http://www.heke-rahn-company.com/

(Shame the domain name and company name spelling differ :D )

http://maradec-company.co.uk/

http://www.euromaidec-rental.co.uk (No longer working)

http://adac-rental-company.net/html/how.html/

The postcode LW doesn't exist

There's more.

http://www.easy-rents-ltd.com/HowItWorks.html

http://euromediarentals.eu/

http://www.uk-rentals-property.co.uk

The photo on the website isn't of the office mentioned in the contact address which is located on a steep hill. :D

Another version

http://www.realestateproperty-uk.com

It seems there are lots of these.

http://foxtons-imb.com

I'll get them recorded and detailed in due course.

CAR ADVERTS - If a car seller mentions escrow - he's scamming you Never ever for any reason pay anything until you have seen and inspected the vehicle
#150323 by TerranceBoyce Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:49 am
All those sites I've mentioned have either, already been put up for incineration, or I have added them.

CAR ADVERTS - If a car seller mentions escrow - he's scamming you Never ever for any reason pay anything until you have seen and inspected the vehicle
#151704 by Yvonne068 Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:44 pm
i came across his ad in antwerp yesterday and had a responce - just like the others ....'
http://www.immoweb.be/nl/Rent.estate.cf ... =X_4148322
after getting in contact with immonet they blocked the ad directly :-)

heres the emails i had so far ...


From: Chris Birch
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 11:26 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Immoweb - Reactie op zoekertje Te huur

Hello,

Thanks for your interest . I inherited the apartment from my grandfather when he past away, i am from United Kingdom , Bristol so i decided to rent it. Before we go further, I would like to know a little about you, such as how many persons you intend to have staying in the apartment and for how long also if you can send me a picture it will be nice . I will be glad to rent it to anyone who likes to keep it clean and tidy. I can rent out the flat for unlimited time ( 1 to 5 years maybe more ) . I can also rent it for short periods (2-3 months minimum). The rent for 1 month is EUR 450 including all utilities . You may use my furniture, or you can use your own , it's the same thing for me . I have the option of sending all my furniture to storage, if you want to bring your own (no extra cost). You can move in to the apartment on the same day that you receive the keys. The only problem is that I am the only person who has the keys, but i have a solution for that if you are still interested . Thank you for your interest and I look forward to hear from you soon. Thanks
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this one came today
Hi again ,

Thanks for your reply, but the problem is that I am already in United Kingdom. As I informed you, the price you will have to pay the first month rent of 450 + 450 EUR deposit ( 900 EUR), with no additional fees . I need from you one month rent plus deposit. I want to receive the money monthly in my bank account. I trust that there is no problem for you to send money to my bank account . The apartment is ready , you just need to receive the keys and the contract to check it, and see if you can accept it. Of course we will need some way to go through this agreement, to allow us ensure that we get what we are expecting. For in it, I have discovered how we could finish the deal securely and quickly, and in this way, you will receive the keys in less than 2 days, if you move quickly as well. A rental third party service called HF Rentals , which corresponds to FedEx or UPS Escrow .. etc , offers this solution and will handle both payment and delivery of the keys.In this way, you may see it and decide if you want to live in the apartment or not, before I receive any payment. To start this transaction, I need your full name, address, city, postcode and country . I will also have to know the rental period and the day you want to move in, so I can put it in the contract. I will pay for the services performed by the agency, so there will not be any additional cost to you. In addition, if you have another apartment right now, and you cannot move out immediately, we can come to an agreement as I have explained here, and consider it only an inspection and reservation.I will wait your quick response, because there are other people waiting for my answer too, so i need to know if I can count on a deal with you . Thank You
Last edited by Yvonne068 on Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:23 am, edited 2 times in total.
#151712 by Michelle Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:33 pm
Hello Yvonne068 and welcome to Scamwarners.com

Kindly post the complete suspicious e-mail that you have mentioned - it will help other people when they are searching for similar details. -

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