Room for Rent and other rental scams
#146044 by Con Warner Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:01 pm
From: Robert Nordhagen <[email protected]>
Sender: [email protected]
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 11:11
To: Con Warner
ReplyTo: [email protected]
Subject: Apt for Rent

Hello,



The apartment located in 530 Raven Woods Drive, North Vancouver, BC, Canada is in excellent condition and it's just like in the pictures, very clean and very well kept. Honestly from point of view I'm sure that you will rent it on spot. I'm not looking to make a business or a profit with the apartment, I'm just trying to find a responsible tenant to take good care of the place. The apartment has 2 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms. It is furnished but if you want you can use your furniture and deposit mine in the storage unit near the building so is not far away. The rent is 950CAD/month with everything included (heat, hydro, water, electricity, cable and internet, 2 parking spots, laundry in-suite, washer and dryer). You will have full access to all the amenities of the building (sauna, pool, fitness room, gym, party room, visitor parking). Pets are allowed. I stayed in the apartment with my wife for 3 months. About me: I'm a civil engineer and I work for a worlwide company called Jacobs Engineering, I'm 45 years old married with 2 children. The reason I'm renting the apartment is that I'm relocating with my job in another country and I already signed the contract that will be for the next 4 years. Everything in the apartment is new so there will be no need for repairs. The only problem is that I need to send you the keys and papers because it is a private property.I'm sure we can make this happen.



Regards,

Robert


This person asks for a deposit payment via Western Union or MoneyGram to an escrow company with a promise that he will send the keys through a courier company.

Sounds safe. It's not!
The emails claiming to be from the company are fake.

At other times, he will ask for proof that you are able to pay the deposit and rent due to a string of time wasters.
This proof is in the form of a Western Union or MoneyGram payment to a lawyer,a friend or family member.

In either case, if payment is made and you give this person the details, they will collect the money.
You will not hear from them again.

All the details such as names, addresses, pictures etc. that the scammer uses in order to back up his story, are stolen from elsewhere.

If you are reading this because you are looking for property to rent, and you are in contact with this thief you are probably searching Craigslist, Gumtree or similar listing sites. If you receive any requests from 'Landlords' asking for some kind of payment before viewing, then it will also be a scam. Please forward the mail to me at the address in my signature line and I will investigate and list them if necessary.

scammer wrote:My phone number is +442081239565 (if you are calling from Canada or United States you need to dial 011-44-20-81239565). You can call me or e-mail any time you wish.

Email: [email protected]

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#146053 by GoddessAthena Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:30 pm
Hey, this guy is now using a new and improved name for his scam ADAM MURDOCK ([email protected]).
I responded to this craig's list ad: http://abbotsford.en.craigslist.ca/apa/3546389358.html

Here are the emails I exchanged today:

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adam Murdock
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:07 PM
To: Subject: Apt for Rent

Hello,

The apartment located in 32085 George Ferguson Way, Abbotsford, BC, Canada is in excellent condition and it's just like in the pictures, very clean and very well kept. Honestly from point of view I'm sure that you will rent it on spot. I'm not looking to make a business or a profit with the apartment, I'm just trying to find a responsible tenant to take good care of the place. The apartment has 2 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms. It is furnished but if you want you can use your furniture and deposit mine in the storage unit near the building so is not far away. The rent is 680CAD/month with everything included (heat, hydro, water, electricity, cable and internet, 2 parking spots, laundry in-suite, washer and dryer). You will have full access to all the amenities of the building (sauna, pool, fitness room, gym, party room, visitor parking). Pets are allowed. I stayed in the apartment with my wife for 3 months. About me: I'm a civil engineer and I work for a worlwide company called Jacobs Engineering, I'm 45 years old married with 2 children. The reason I'm renting the apartment is that I'm relocating with my job in another country and I already signed the contract that will be for the next 4 years. Everything in the apartment is new so there will be no need for repairs. The only problem is that I need to send you the keys and papers because it is a private property.I'm sure we can make this happen.



Regards,

Adam
_________________________________________________________________________________________________
From:
To: adam.murdock <[email protected]>; paulnrmnn <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 7:38 pm
Subject: RE: Apt for Rent
Hi Adam,

Thank you for the note.

When could I view the apartment?

Cheers,
______________________________________________________________________________________________
From: Adam Murdock [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 10:56 AM
To:
Subject: Re: Apt for Rent (HERE IS WHERE IT GETS REALLY GOOD)

Hello,

Thank you for your reply. As I told you before the rent for 1 month will be 680CAD and damage deposit 340CAD with no extra fees and you will have full access to all the amenities of the building. The price will not increase for the whole period that you will stay there. I would also like to know how many people will live in the apartment and also which rental contract do you prefer- 6 months rental contract with option of renewal or 1 year rental contract with option of renewal. The monthly payments can be wired to my Bank Account (TD Bank) or we can setup a payment method that is suitable for both of us. The apartment is in excellent condition, you only need to receive the keys and the contract so you could check it out, and see if you like it that I'm sure you will. Since at this moment I'm in London, United Kingdom and obviously we need a safe way to complete this deal.The solution is a worldwide third party company called CLICKANDBUY (http://www.clickandbuy.com) ,they will provide assistance in handling the payment and delivery of the rental package. With this procedure you will be able to check the apartment before I receive the payment. Please be aware that is NOT necessary for you to register with ClickandBuy given that I'm a registered user for 4 years and I've made over 30 transactions with them so far. They are really professional and they have great services.
My phone number is +442081239565 (if you are calling from Canada or United States you need to dial 011-44-20-81239565). You can call me or e-mail any time you wish.
Let me know if you are interested so I can provide with all the steps of this transaction, everything that you need to know about this process before we get this started. I think is right for both of us.


Thank you and hope to hear from you soon!
#146072 by Hollying Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:27 pm
After I read this website: viewtopic.php?f=39&p=146053
And I know I am be Cheated by this "civil engineer".
I search the company name "Jacobs Engineering" and there is no branch company in UK!!!
Here are the emails I exchanged today:


From: Steve Grewal <[email protected]>
Date: 2013/1/21
Subject: Re: I need your 2 bedrooms apartment for rent,Thank you.
To: fi*****@gmail.com

Hello,
The apartment located in 320 5th Ave N, Saskatoon, SK, Canada is in excellent condition and it's just like in the pictures, very clean and very well kept. Honestly from point of view I'm sure that you will rent it on spot. I'm not looking to make a business or a profit with the apartment, I'm just trying to find a responsible tenant to take good care of the place. The apartment has 2 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms. It is furnished but if you want you can use your furniture and deposit mine in the storage unit near the building so is not far away. The rent is 800CAD/month with everything included (heat, hydro, water, electricity, cable and internet, 2 parking spots, laundry in-suite, washer and dryer). You will have full access to all the amenities of the building (sauna, pool, fitness room, gym, party room, visitor parking). Pets are allowed. I stayed in the apartment with my wife for 3 months. About me: I'm a civil engineer and I work for a worlwide company called Jacobs Engineering, I'm 45 years old married with 2 children. The reason I'm renting the apartment is that I'm relocating with my job in another country and I already signed the contract that will be for the next 4 years. Everything in the apartment is new so there will be no need for repairs. The only problem is that I need to send you the keys and papers because it is a private property.I'm sure we can make this happen.

Regards,

Steve

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From: fi*****@gmail.com
Date: 2013/1/21
Subject: Re: I need your 2 bedrooms apartment for rent,Thank you.
To: Steve Grewal <[email protected]>

Good morning,Steve,

Is rent 800CAD/month with everything included ?

From,
Holly
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From: Steve Grewal <[email protected]>
Date: 2013/1/21
Subject: Re: I need your 2 bedrooms apartment for rent,Thank you.
To: fi*****@gmail.com


Hello,

Thank you for your reply. As I told you before the rent for 1 month will be 800CAD and damage deposit 400CAD with no extra fees and you will have full access to all the amenities of the building. The price will not increase for the whole period that you will stay there. I would also like to know how many people will live in the apartment and also which rental contract do you prefer- 6 months rental contract with option of renewal or 1 year rental contract with option of renewal. The monthly payments can be wired to my Bank Account (TD Bank) or we can setup a payment method that is suitable for both of us. The apartment is in excellent condition, you only need to receive the keys and the contract so you could check it out, and see if you like it that I'm sure you will. Since at this moment I'm in London, United Kingdom and obviously we need a safe way to complete this deal.The solution is a worldwide third party company called CLICKANDBUY (www.clickandbuy.com) ,they will provide assistance in handling the payment and delivery of the rental package. With this procedure you will be able to check the apartment before I receive the payment. Please be aware that is NOT necessary for you to register with ClickandBuy given that I'm a registered user for 4 years and I've made over 30 transactions with them so far. They are really professional and they have great services.
My phone number is +442081239565 (if you are calling from Canada or United States you need to dial 011-44-20-81239565). You can call me or e-mail any time you wish.
Let me know if you are interested so I can provide with all the steps of this transaction, everything that you need to know about this process before we get this started. I think is right for both of us.


Thank you and hope to hear from you soon!

..................................................................................................................................................................
From: Steve Grewal <[email protected]>
Date: 2013/1/21
Subject: Re: I need your 2 bedrooms apartment for rent,Thank you.
To: fi*****@gmail.com

Hi again,
You will only have to deposit to ClickandBuy the first month of rent from contract 800CAD and damage deposit 400CAD a total of 1200CAD so they can proceed with the shipping, and you can receive the rental package (keys and documents). I will pay for a 2 days delivery so you will receive the keys and the contract signed by me right away. I will explain you step by step how this process will work:
1 - To start the process all I need is your full shipping info(full name, address and a cell phone number).
2 - I will go at ClickandBuy to deposit the keys and the contract on your name as the intended receiver.
3 - ClickandBuy will check the package to see if everything is in order and also the legal papers that will come along with the keys and proof of ownership with their Real Estate Professional Department in London. They will also confirm with the building manager that I'm the legal owner of the apartment I'm renting to you.
4 - ClickandBuy will send you a delivery notification to let you know they have the keys and the papers in their custody in which you will also have all the payment instructions to complete the money transfer to the ClickandBuy Agent.
5 - At this point you will have to make a money deposit on the ClickandBuy Agent Name for the amount we agreed, the total amount you shall deposit for the first month of rent. The payment needs to be sent within 24 hours after you receive the transaction details or else they will charge me an additional fee.
6 - After you make the deposit you will have to send the payment details to ClickandBuy.
7 - ClickandBuy will verify the transfer and if everything is in order they will start the shipping procedures using UPS or TNT Next Day Shipping Service.
8 - After you receive the package, you will go and check the apartment and in 5 days (inspection time) you must contact ClickandBuy to inform them if you keep the apt or not and if everything is in order you will instruct ClickandBuy to send me the information about the money deposit and I will be able to receive the funds. If you don`t like the apartment they will be sending the money back to you and you will send back the keys and contract. ClickandBuy can't release the funds without your approval.
Let me know if you have the funds available (1200CAD$) so we can move forward and e-mail me your full shipping information I requested. Any further questions regarding the transaction you can contact me or send me your number and I will call you.

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