Room for Rent and other rental scams
#218522 by Michelle Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:59 am
[email protected]

On Sep 3, 2014, at 18:44, "Christopher Maees" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Hey,
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> Thank you for your interest in my apartment located in 111 Elizabeth Street, Toronto, ON M5G 1P7. The apartment is in excellent condition and it's just like in the pictures, very clean and very well taken. Honestly from point of view I'm sure that you will rent it on spot. I'm not looking to make a business or a profit with the apartment, I'm just trying to find a good and trust person to take good care of the place. It is furnished but if you want you can use your furniture and deposit mine in the storage unit that is located near the building not far away. The rent is 730 CAD/month with everything included (heat, hydro, water, electricity, cable and internet-full package from Rogers, 2 parking spots, laundry in-suite, washer and dryer). You will have full access to all the amenities of the building. Pets are allowed. I stayed in the apartment with my wife for 3 months. I'm a civil engineer and I work for a company that has an auction for a project in construction in London, United Kingdom, so my accommodation period in England will be about 4 years. Everything in the apartment is new so there will be no need for repairs.
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> Thank you and look forward hearing from you!
> Chris
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> PS : I attached you all the pictures that I have with the apartment ( as you can see everything is in absolutely perfect condition ) .


Date: Sep 2014 08:32:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Re : 730 $ CAD - Bright & Modern studio in heart of downtown
From: [email protected]
To: Michelle Banks
Hello Michelle

Thank you for your reply. As I told you before the rent for 1 month will be 730CAD and damage deposit 730CAD ( last month) with no extra fees and you will have full access to all the amenities of the building. The price will not increase for the whole period that you will stay there. I would also like to know how many people will live in the apartment and also which rental contract do you prefer- 6 months or 1 year rental contract with option of renewal. The monthly payments can be wired to my Canadian Bank Account (TD Bank) or we can setup a payment method that is suitable for both of us.

The apartment is in excellent condition, you only need to receive the keys and the contract so you could check it out, and see if you like it. Since at this moment I'm in London, United Kingdom and obviously we need a safe way to complete this deal.The solution is a worldwide third party company called Airbnb (www.airbnb.com) ,they will provide assistance in handling the payment and delivery of the rental package

We use this company to see that you are an trusting and serious person. They will provide assistance in handling the payment and delivery of the rental package . With this procedure you will be able to check the apartment before I receive the payment. Please be aware that is NOT necessary for you to register with Airbnb given that I'm a registered user for 4 years and I've made over 30 transactions with them so far. They are really professional and they have great services.

My phone number is +44 203 287 6610 (if you are calling from Canada you may need to dial 011-44-203 287 6610). You can call me or e-mail anytime you wish.

Let me know if you are interested so I can provide with all the steps of this transaction . You need to know everything about this process before we get this started. I think is right for both of us.

Thank you and hope to hear from you soon!

Chris


This person asks for a deposit payment via Western Union, MoneyGram, pre-paid credit card or bank transfer with a promise that you can have the keys to a property that does not belong to him.

Sounds safe. It's not!

At other times, he will ask for proof that you are able to pay the deposit and rent due to a string of time wasters.
This proof is in the form of a Western Union or MoneyGram payment to a lawyer,a friend or family member.

In either case, if payment is made and you give this person the details, they will collect the money.
You will not hear from them again.

All the details such as names, addresses, pictures etc. that the scammer uses in order to back up his story, are stolen from elsewhere.

If you are reading this because you are looking for property to rent, and you are in contact with this thief you are probably searching Craigslist, Gumtree or similar listing sites. If you receive any requests from 'Landlords' asking for some kind of payment before viewing, then it will also be a scam. Please forward the mail to me at the address in my signature line and I will investigate and list them if necessary.

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#220103 by ebk Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:02 pm
Hey, this A-hole just tried to scam me. I live in Toronto, exact same emails - except he now goes by Chris Wimmer (on his fake passport picture) or Chris Wimmeer on his gmail account. The picture on the passport is different than the picture that shows up through his gmail account. I'm glad I caught the red flags before getting duped, but I thought I found something great at first until I started noticing the bs he was trying to feed me. Do whatever you can to :bondage: this guy. He's been doing this from Vancouver, to Edmonton, to Toronto, to Ottawa according to other threads on this website. I hope he hasn't screwed too many people over. Damn, that apartment was so sweet too!
#220106 by ebk Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:30 pm
Bryon Williams wrote:^^^ Was the email address? [email protected]


YES! If you're dealing with this lowlife stay away! He will send you a passport picture and the name on it is Chris Wimmer (not Wimmeer as per gmail account). He might be scamming you for the same apartment he was trying to scam me for if you're dealing with him in Toronto. He put the ad up on kijiji a few days ago - it got over 260 views in less than a day, so this guy is trying to milk a lot of people in the city.
#220133 by RandomGuy12 Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:14 pm
Hi everyone. Damn glad I found this website. I was suspicious of him since this seemed too good to be true, and it sounds like it was. This asshat is now scamming Calgary. He is using the name "Christopher David Wimmer" although his e-mail address is [email protected]. The first thing that threw me off was that the email does not match the actual name. The second thing is that he actually sent me a photo of what is supposed to be his passport, nobody does that.

His emails to me have been literally word for word with what the above posters have noted. His most recent email is as follows:

"Hi again,

This transaction is not made face to face, this is the whole reason for using Airbnb, for both of us to be 100% protected. For security and for your peace of mind I had attached an copy of my PASSPORT to see that I am very serious about everything.

Regarding the process, you will only have to deposit to Airbnb the first month of rent from contract and damage deposit 940 $ + 940 $ = 1880 $ CAD so they can proceed with the shipping, and you can receive the rental package (keys and documents). I will pay for a 2 days delivery so you will receive the keys and the contract signed by me right away. I will explain you step by step how this process will work:

1 - To start the process all I need is your full info(full name, address and a cell phone number).
2 - I will go at Airbnb to deposit the keys and the contract on your name as the intended receiver.
3 - Airbnb will check the package to see if everything is in order and also the legal papers that will come along with the keys and proof of ownership with their Real Estate Professional Department in London. They will also confirm with the building manager that I'm the legal owner of the apartment I'm renting to you.
4 - Airbnb will send you a delivery notification to let you know they have the keys and the papers in their custody. They will also send you all the payment instructions to complete the rental transaction.
5 - At this point you will have to make a money deposit on the Airbnb bank account for the amount we agreed, the total amount you shall deposit for the first month of rent ( and damage deposit ) . The payment needs to be sent within 24 hours after you receive the transaction details or else they will charge me an additional fee.
6 - After you make the deposit you will have to send the payment details to Airbnb .
7 - Airbnb will verify the transfer and if everything is in order they will start the shipping procedures using UPS or TNT Next Day Shipping Service .

8 - After you receive the package, you will go and check the apartment and in 5 days (inspection time) you must contact Airbnb to inform them if you keep the apt or not and if everything is in order you will instruct Airbnb to send me the information about the money deposit and I will be able to receive the funds. If you don`t like the apartment they will be sending the money back to you and you will send back the keys and contract. Airbnb can't release the funds without your approval.

Let me know if you have the funds available (1880 CAD$) so we can move forward and e-mail me your full information I requested. Any further questions regarding the transaction you can call or e-mail me.


Thanks
Chris"


I found this property on Kijiji. The place certainly does look wonderful. Tomorrow I will be contacting the local Airbnb office to alert them to this, and I will also be messaging Kijiji. I will also be notifying the police. The more people who complain the more likely they will actually do something.

Has anyone actually tried the UK phone #?
Last edited by Bryon Williams on Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:14 pm, edited 1 time in total. Reason: Added quotation.
#276276 by DNiego Wed Nov 25, 2015 2:35 pm
Wish I found this sooner. I believe that I've been scammed by this guy Dennis Pana. His email is [email protected]. He sent me almost the exact email. I contacted him from this ad on kijiji and i paid for a months stay but havent heard back. Gonna report this A-Hole.

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