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#276566 by Ali Baba Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:23 am
I want to do business with a company I have found. The company is selling diamond jewellery, and sells it your company and ships it to your customers with your name on it without you touching it. The company seems to have strict rules to let you buy their products, with you having to show them proof of your established sales platform.

Their URL is http://www.bestdiamond-dropshipping.com/

I'm finding it hard to find information on them. Here are some though.
Website details:
Creation Date: 07-may-2015
Expiration Date: 07-may-2016
(Doesn't mean it will 100% end on this date, these dates can be extended.)

Corporate Headquarters:
New York ,USA
Ramat Gan ,Israel

This is from their WhoIs data. I have also contacted the websites that they say they are verified at on their site, and I am awaiting a reply.


Can anyone help me sus them out to find out if they are legitimate or not?
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#276570 by Ali Baba Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:05 am
Bryon Williams wrote:It is a scam.


Any reason why you say that? I believe there a lot of factors to take into account, and as much as I appreciate your reply, it isn't really helpful.
#276571 by AlanJones Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:12 am
The domain was registered 6 months ago for the minimum 1 year period - do they not plan on staying around long? Legitimate businesses usually register their domain for multiple years.

Then there is the registrant details:
Registrant Name: Contact Privacy Inc. Customer 0140007342
Registrant Organization: Contact Privacy Inc. Customer 0140007342


Legitimate businesses have no need to hide who or where they are.

Please do not tell scammers that they are listed here - it will take them seconds to change their fake details and their new details will not be listed for any future victims to find.
#276572 by AlanJones Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:18 am
There is no physical contact details on the website either - would you really trust your customers' money with someone when you don't have a clue who or where they are? If the goods don't arrive with the customer, it is going to be you that they demand a refund from and possibly report for fraud.

Please do not tell scammers that they are listed here - it will take them seconds to change their fake details and their new details will not be listed for any future victims to find.
#276573 by Bryon Williams Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:18 am
1. Who will buy a diamond unseen?????

2. You saw red flags and came here for an answer to questions you already had.

Domain Name: BESTDIAMOND-DROPSHIPPING.COM
Registrar: TUCOWS DOMAINS INC.
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 69
Whois Server: whois.tucows.com
Referral URL: http://www.tucowsdomains.com
Name Server: NS1.SITEGROUND237.COM
Name Server: NS2.SITEGROUND237.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 07-aug-2015
Creation Date: 07-may-2015 << Red flag
Expiration Date: 07-may-2016 << Red flag

Why would a company hide their details if they were real.

Registrant Name: Contact Privacy Inc. Customer 0140007342
Registrant Organization: Contact Privacy Inc. Customer 0140007342


Buy your diamonds face to face where you can see they actually exist and the quality.

Stop all contact with the scammer.

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#276592 by Ali Baba Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:16 am
I get what you're saying, and this business does seem highly suspicious, but these things don't always mean scammers.
AlanJones wrote:The domain was registered 6 months ago for the minimum 1 year period - do they not plan on staying around long? Legitimate businesses usually register their domain for multiple years.

True, but not always. I have registered a domain for a business for one year for certain reasons before, even when I planned for running it long than one year.

AlanJones wrote: Legitimate businesses have no need to hide who or where they are.

No need to hide from their partners or customers, but hiding some this info is done by some companies to stop spam. I know when I bought my most recent domain name, I got a phone call and about 30 emails in the next 2 weeks advertising web development.

AlanJones wrote:There is no physical contact details on the website either

I will not be dealing with the company if I can not get proper details, but I am currently in the process of trying to get this information from them or affiliate companies.

I'm not discounting the advice you have given me, but I'm also saying it doesn't all mean it is a 100% scam, but it is quite likely it could be. I would very much like to work with them if they are real, so I am not discounting them until I can actually prove it.
#276597 by HillBilly Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:54 am
Ali Baba wrote:No need to hide from their partners or customers, but hiding some this info is done by some companies to stop spam. I know when I bought my most recent domain name, I got a phone call and about 30 emails in the next 2 weeks advertising web development.

AlanJones wrote:There is no physical contact details on the website either

I will not be dealing with the company if I can not get proper details, but I am currently in the process of trying to get this information from them or affiliate companies.

I'm not discounting the advice you have given me, but I'm also saying it doesn't all mean it is a 100% scam, but it is quite likely it could be. I would very much like to work with them if they are real, so I am not discounting them until I can actually prove it.



It sure sounds like you are doubting everything we say. The fact is advertising is precious to any business, and free advertising is welcomed at any time. If a business owner chooses to hide their registration details by paying an additional fee to do that, instead of posting their physical location and getting a free email box so all the SPAM goes into it, then they don't think very well.

why would you trust them or their affiliates to give you information about them? If they don't provide it, there is a reason for that. It is that simple.
Here is link to the NY state Department of Corporations : http://www.dos.ny.gov/corps/ Go ahead and see if your scammer has listed his fake business there or not.... My guess is it isn't there at all, I won't waste my time doing the search. But its funny how some people you can not get to see the emperor being naked. They just see what they want.

#276599 by Bryon Williams Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:03 am
I'm not discounting the advice you have given me, but I'm also saying it doesn't all mean it is a 100% scam, but it is quite likely it could be. I would very much like to work with them if they are real, so I am not discounting them until I can actually prove it.


It is a scam. You have been told so.

It is your money and you send it to who ever you want to. It will be you loss.

If you had confidence of this company you would not be asking questions here.

Your red flags sent you here to ask. Yet you are still in denial.

Question asked and answered.

Any further questions you can PM me or Alan Jones.

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#276600 by Bryon Williams Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:07 am
I have unlocked this topic to allow Hillbilly a chance to help this future victim.

Hillbilly, please PM me if this confuses future victims.

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#276601 by Terminator5 Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:08 am
It seems like alibaba already made up his mind before asking the question .

@ Alibaba

You asked an opinion and were given one , yet you still want to believe that this website / company is legitimate . Yet they have no contact details on the site or in their registration .

Daniel 8 :25
#276602 by Bryon Williams Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:10 am
Why could you not address anything I posted?

Could you not come up with a reason to defend it?

Bryon Williams wrote:1. Who will buy a diamond unseen?????

2. You saw red flags and came here for an answer to questions you already had.

Domain Name: BESTDIAMOND-DROPSHIPPING.COM
Registrar: TUCOWS DOMAINS INC.
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 69
Whois Server: whois.tucows.com
Referral URL: http://www.tucowsdomains.com
Name Server: NS1.SITEGROUND237.COM
Name Server: NS2.SITEGROUND237.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 07-aug-2015
Creation Date: 07-may-2015 << Red flag
Expiration Date: 07-may-2016 << Red flag

Why would a company hide their details if they were real.

Registrant Name: Contact Privacy Inc. Customer 0140007342
Registrant Organization: Contact Privacy Inc. Customer 0140007342


Buy your diamonds face to face where you can see they actually exist and the quality.

Stop all contact with the scammer.

Please contacta moferatorstor if you have a question or information about this post.



Please do not tell the scammer he is posted here.


Please remember the fallen. https://www.odmp.org/
#276605 by Terminator5 Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:22 am
Personally I think Alibaba has an interest in that site other than being a customer of it .

@ Alibaba

Is that your website sir ?

Daniel 8 :25
#276606 by HillBilly Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:28 am
@ T5, now Ali Baba has 5 opinions now, all agreeing with each other. The only one that differs is his/her own.

@ Bryon, he/she did offer one reason for hiding their details, to avoid SPAM. That is sort of like having a business phone #, and not posting / advertising it because telemarketers will call you... ( as if real customers are less important than telemarketers)??? The SPAM can be fixed with a free email box on the registration, and telemarketers given a phone # that no one can hear ring, so if they leave a message you can listen to it.

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