Information on romance scams and scammers.

#205639 by Bryon Williams Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:02 pm
Because he is using outlook we can not get an IP address.

This IP address is for Microsoft.
Originating IP:
Originating ISP: Microsoft Hosting
City: Redmond

Did he send any pictures? If so, post them. Also the emails removing your sisters information.

Please contacta moferatorstor if you have a question or information about this post.

Please do not tell the scammer he is posted here.

Please remember the fallen.
#205642 by Capt. Tripps Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:19 pm
The IP address of the Outlook web server is right at the top of the link you posted. Unfortunately, it has come to my attention that the person's 'true' IP cannot be traced through Outlook. The IP, which originates in Redmond, Washington USA is not where the scammer is; rather where the mail servers are. It was worth a shot.

As others have said, you don't want to antagonise your sister by abruptly confronting her. However, it needs to be made clear to her that this is a romance scam, bearing many hallmarks of this type of fraud.
Show her this forum, explain to her what you've learnt, refer her to victim stories of this kind of fraud. It sounds like she is in something of a dream or trance right now; it is apparently very common for victims of romance scams to go through.

You need to snap her out of it, but it won't be an easy pill to swallow, knowing that she has lost money and other items that she will never see again, and that this caring, funny, interesting man she thinks she is speaking with is a criminal and most likely a psychopath.
You also need to instill in her that there is no money, no man coming to marry her; that his only interest is stealing her money from her, and he will invent any ruse, any excuse, any fabrication in order to facilitate that purpose. Once the money is gone, so is he.

I think the best way for you to go about this is to refer her to this site, or others which deal with this type of scam. If she is confronted with evidence that it's a scam, by perhaps seeing or reading about women who have been in similar situations, then something might just click and she'll hopefully come to the realisation that she has been deceived. It really is such a difficult, delicate state of affairs. Please do keep us posted with any updates, or anything useful that might help the cause.
#205774 by Jane2014 Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:06 pm
She says it is over and I believe his Facebook page has disappeared. She called and said she does not want me near her so I guess this is what is called tough love. I don't know if we can believe her as she has lied so much to our family.
#205948 by Smith Jones Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:52 pm
Jane2014 and thief_fighter, you have received great advise and support here. Let me go one step further as a former romance scam victim. It is very very hard to let go of a scammer who has gotten into your heart. Your loved ones may be hearing you but they have been brainwashed to believe this person who has told them everything they ever wanted to hear. Scammers are masters at the game of lies, and they know how to manipulate people. I know I lied to my friend who straight out asked me if I had sent my scammer money. The lads tell you to avoid everyone you know, pay attention to only them, and they reinforce their "love" with pretty words and promises. I really wanted to believe it was true. Even after I came here and found out it was all a lie, I just really wanted my scammer to show up and prove them all wrong.
Stay involved and watch your friend/relative closely. They will likely tell the scammer they know the truth and that will increase the games and lies. Sooner or later, when the money requests just keep on coming, and the scammer is never there, never quite fulfills a promise, then you will be ready to help them. They have to be willing to hear. They have to be willing to see. If you can get them to come here, like suggested, they will see it is all a pattern and they are not the only ones. It is hard to watch and I wish you well. We are always here to help.

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