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#75954 by FightOnlineCarScams Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:12 pm
This is a different type of fraud with the same concept. The scam artist uses a real dealer's name and address and creates a website to make it appear they are the legitimate dealer. See the story about America Auto Sales in Memphis, TN for an example of how this scam works. In this case these guys are using the name and address of a legitimate Toby's Cars with a different phone number.

Dealer Name(s) Used: Toby's Cars
Email Addresses Used: [email protected]
Phone Number(s) Used: (970) 812-3306 Fax: (877) 638-4728
Physical Addresses Used: 2128 Bond Street, Grand Junction, CO 81501 (This address is also the same address for the legitimate Toby's Cars)

Website(s) Used: Toby's Cars
Listing Sites Used: Self Hosted

These guys are using the same site template they used for Luka Cars.
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#75966 by AlanJones Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:30 am
Hi FightOnlineCarScams

Thanks for posting this. We have contacts who can get the website taken down, but were going to need more evidence to prove that this isn't the real Toby's Cars website.

The only evidence I've got at present is the WhoIs details -


Registration Service Provided By: DOMAIN NAMES REGISTRAR REG.RU LTD.
Contact: +7.4955801111

Domain Name: TOBYSCARS.COM

Registrant:
Toby's Cars
Toby Miller ()
2128 Bond St
Grand Junction
CO,81501
US
Tel. +1.5012889697

Creation Date: 20-Nov-2011
Expiration Date: 20-Nov-2012


Domain servers in listed order:
alpha.nickhost.com
beta.nickhost.com


Administrative Contact:
Toby's Cars
Toby Miller ()
2128 Bond St
Grand Junction
CO,81501
US
Tel. +1.5012889697

Technical Contact:
Toby's Cars
Toby Miller ()
2128 Bond St
Grand Junction
CO,81501
US
Tel. +1.5012889697

Billing Contact:
Toby's Cars
Toby Miller ()
2128 Bond St
Grand Junction
CO,81501
US
Tel. +1.5012889697


As you can see, the site was only recently registered and is only registered for 1 year.

Unfortunately, this won't be enough evidence for the site to be removed.

Do you have the details of the legitimate site for Toby's Cars? What other evidence can you provide to show this is a scam?

Please do not tell scammers that they are listed here - it will take them seconds to change their fake details and their new details will not be listed for any future victims to find.
#76312 by AlanJones Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:47 am
The problem with this one is that they are piggy backing on the name of a legitimate car dealer, so any check on them make it appear that they are legitimate.

The fact that they are hosted in the Ukraine and have copied another site is not sufficient to try and get the site closed down.

I will try and obtain some evidence.

Please do not tell scammers that they are listed here - it will take them seconds to change their fake details and their new details will not be listed for any future victims to find.

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