hxxp://www.baymobile.co.uk

This is a scam site. Ive just spoken to the real owner of the company whose identity has been stolen. baymobile will take your money and run, and you wont get a penny back. Note that they dont take Visa or Paypal, and are cute enough not to alert people by pushing western union. They claim to be based in the uk. avoid!

so for the avoidence of doubt:

BAYMOBILE IS A SCAM

Admin note: This post was made by a scammer who is trying to convince you that his fake website is real. As you can see in the posts above and below, the website is in fact fraudulent.
First of all, would like to say that this is the second account created with scamwarners because the first account could not be verified, the confirmation email simply never arrived, most likely it was caught by the spam filters, this shows what a trusted website scamwarners.com is.

A customer directed our attention to this thread and we've found all this crap written about Baymobile.


FACT 1 : IT'S TRUE, THE HOLIDAYS WILL BRING DELAYS IN YOUR ORDER

FACT 2 : THE DELIVERY WILL PROBABLY BE DELAYED 2 OR 3 DAYS TOPS

FACT 3 : THERE WILL ALWAYS BE UNSATISFIED CUSTOMERS THAT TRY TO RUIN OUR REPUTATION BY POSTING FALSE INFORMATION BUT THEY HAVE NO GOOD REASON FOR DOING SO. IT'S JUST WRONG !


Would not like to comment further to this post, it is completely useless.

IT'S REALLY A SHAME THAT ON THE DAY OF CHRISTMAS, YOU HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO DO!

I asked a few of our site specialists to take a look at the site in question, and have done some searching myself.

Let's take a look at what we have found:

First, the registration:

Registered on: 26-Nov-2011
Renewal date: 26-Nov-2013
Last updated: 01-Dec-2011

So the site was registered a month ago, and for 2 years, the minimum period for a .co.uk site. This is a red flag, especially when you are dealing with a site advertising electronics at a below normal price.

The site is registered to an individual, not a company. Again, a red flag. Company websites are typically registered in the name of the company.

Then there's the registration address. The postcode on the address in Sunderland is wrong. Typically, you should be able to expect a company to know its own location. Now when you look at the actual website, no physical address or phone number is listed (incidentally, location is required by law for UK businesses, so if this were a legitimate business, it would be in violation of the law). There is an address in West Glamorgan listed in the "return" section of the website. It's nowhere near the registration address. According to distancefromto.net, the distance between Sunderland and West Glamorgan is 378.57 km. Neither matches the Registered Office for the real company Bay Ltd, which is in Milton Keynes.

Moving on to the site itself:
First, we have the web of trust logo. The site owners have copied a graphic from web of trust. It is not a legitimate web of trust icon. It is in fact a stolen copyrighted image. The site is not a trusted merchant--in fact, it hasn't been rated at all at the time I am typing this (though I am sure it will soon have a negative rating). http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/www.baymobile.co.uk

Then we have the TRUSTe logo. A quick check on the TRUSTe site yields this result:

Non-licensee Issue
The URL http://www.baymobile.co.uk does not belong to a TRUSTe licensee.

So again, we have another stolen graphic that is fake.

Next, we have the hackersafe logo. McAfee bought scanalert some time ago, and no longer uses that logo. So we have a one month old site showing a trust seal that doesn't even exist.

The site contains visa and mastercard logos--but when you look at payment options, it doesn't actually take either.

Looking at the ordering page: The ordering page is insecure, another huge red flag (if it wasn't already clear this was a fake anyway).

Moving on to the "about us" information, it's amazing how many exact matches we have to other fake or dodgy phone and electronic sites.
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22+aims+to+keep+you+attached+with+the+latest+technology+mobile+phones%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#q=%22+aims+to+keep+you+attached+with+the+latest+technology+mobile+phones%22&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=T24&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=imvns&ei=lH_6TsnuJMj10gHcuN2NDA&start=10&sa=N&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=8bad52dc14d635c1&biw=1280&bih=593

I could continue (and even point out the poor English for a supposed UK site) but I'd say it's already pretty clear.

Just as a side note about sites selling phones in general if it's too good to be true it always is. This fake site is claiming to sell a iPhone 4s 64gb for roughly $467USD after your "discount". The retail price for this phone if buying unlocked(without buying through a cell carrier) as this fake site is implying is $849. YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO BUY A NEW UNLOCKED IPHONE FOR HALF THR RETAIL PRICE. Its just impossible and only sold this way on scam sites. When cell carriers like Sprint or AT&T buy these phones from Apple they get about a $100 to $200 discount from the retail price. They in turn usually charge their customers a couple hundred dollars to buy the phone but then ask you to sign a 1-2 year contract. This is how the carrier makes up the additional money they spent on the phone. So what I'm saying is if a company like ATT&T that buys millions of iPhones only gets a $200 discount there is NO WAY an individual will buy the same phone for half off.

I'm just using the iPhone as an example as it's probably the most popular but this goes for all other high end phones too like Samsung, HTC, Nokia and Motorola.

If the deal is too good it is. Your just throwing away your money chasing a bargain that does not exsist. Go to a physical store and buy the phone or buy through a reputable site.

For anyone still interested in baymobile.co.uk, the recent experience of my son and I might be helpful.
We were considering buying a new Mac laptop, which baymobile advertised at less than half the normal retail price. Normal card payments are not available so we tried to pay using bank transfer. Alex at baymobile emailed details of their Halifax bank account, and we made the transfer. However, a few hours later Alex emailed again to say: "Please cancel the transfer tomorrow morning. We are not accepting bank transfers anymore. You can use the other payment methods available : Paysafecard or Ukash."
We checked our account and found that the money had indeed been returned in full. We then checked the Paysafecard website which mentioned only using websites with a payment window - which baymobile does not have. Also the Ukash website does in include baymobile in its list of verified sites.
We queried this with baymobile, who wrote back to say that regarding Paysafecard: "we (baymobile) are not a merchant (of Paysafecard) ourselves and we're not accepting only Paysafecard as method of payment, we work with a merchant that indeed uses direct connection with Paysafecard website (customer.cc.at.paysafecard.com ). This will create a connection between the customer ( you ) - the seller (ourselves ) - the merchant and Paysafecard payment system. They keep track of every transaction in particular, so you will get the product or a refund if this is requested by yourself. In other words, this is a more convenient method of payment when paying online, since you are not asked to provide personal information like credit card details."
Alex (at Baymobile) was asking that we confirm details of Paysafecard vouchers by email, so we contacted Paysafecard, who advised us not to give any of paysafe pin code details to third party websites, especially as baymobile does not have direct connection with Paysafe.
We then emailed baymobile asking about the possibility of paying and collecting in person, but we told that this was not possible. They said that the merchant they use (for dealing with Paysafe) is called Global Collect (which we confirmed is a genuine merchant), and tried to assure us of the safety of using Paysafecard, saying: "From the moment of purchase, you are the rightful of the Paysafecard voucher. You can spend it wherever you want, whenever you want to. If you decide to exchange these Paysafecard vouchers with Bay Mobile, it is only fair that you receive something in return, and that is the product that you are buying. In case we don't deliver the product to you, you can contact Paysafecard and they can close the accounts that were used in the process, and refund you your money."
We replied that as far as we could see, once we gave them the details of Paysafecard vouchers they would then be able to redeem them and if the laptop was never sent we would be unable to get our money back. Therefore we had to cancel the order.
All this happened between last Friday (20/01/2012) and Monday. We hope it is helpful to anyone else considering using baymobile. And to baymobile, if you are reading this and are a genuinely legitimate company, I would say please supply an accurate company address and phone number (preferably a landline number), and also a proper safe method of payment. Why not use Paypal? It is simple, safe for all parties, and widely used for internet trading. We would gladly have done business with you but there are just so many things not right that it wasn't worth the risk.

Hello Daveb!

You are absolutely correct. Once you send the voucher the scammer can collect the money and run. It is treated the same as cash. The scammer knows this. It's not like a credit card transaction or in some cases paypal where you can dispute the charges and hopefully get your money back.

The real moral to the story is if it sounds too good to be true it is. No reputable company is selling very desirable new electronics for half of the normal retail cost.

Good job weeding out the scam and thank you for posting your story!

Justin