#11645 by lilysantoni
Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:36 am
I've posted this on two other 'scambaiting' message boards in hopes of resolving this. A poster at another baiting site.net got me suspicious on the possibility that it is far more convoluted than I thought it would be. As the scam involves my relative and her relationship with the person is of a romantic nature, I wouldn't be able to provide the email correspondences between the two of them unless I have a very good reason for doing so. I will be able to provide email headers from the 'secondary scammer' once I gain access to her computer either tomorrow or Friday.
However, she holds a company email address so I don't know how to obtain headers I haven't actually seen the way the email service is formatted though so I might be able to come up with something once I get hold of the computer.
On to the information. I was hesitant earlier to give the full details to either message boards but I'm assuming this site would be alright, I'll just provide as much as I can without divulging names since I don't have the numbers at hand anyway:
Relative, let's call her H from now on is a divorcee and frequently talks to people she meets on Skype. She's quite savvy in that she isn't normally smitten by any random dude who talks to her as I've frequently warned her of the dangers of online relationships. Just recently, she met a guy from the UK claiming to be a businessman of sorts with huge inheritance who is about her age, a widower with no children and like her sick of being single. They strike up a friendship and exchanged pictures (I've seen them showing the person at home on the sofa, posing by his car, and a close-up of his face) unfortunately she has also included pictures of her closest relatives namely myself and another guy including some random information about us of which I'm not too sure about. They've gotten closer and are talking about marriage and moving to another country.
The country in question is Latin American and I've warned her of the dangers of said country as it as very high homicide rate per capita. She expressed said concern and the guy in question (let's call him B) says he will move to our country instead and set up business here. During this period in time, B sent a parcel of goods to my relative containing books,chocolates etc. He didn't tell her that he placed a substantial amount of petty cash and she got to know of this when the parcel was confiscated at the Malaysian Customs. We do not reside in Malaysia. According to the customs officer who called her, it is illegal to send petty cash of huge amounts via mail and to avoid getting incarcerated, she has to send him a bribe in the thousands of Malaysian currency.
She didn't want to be jailed so she sent the money assuming it's okay since for her it is a small amount. Then the courier company calls and claims that they cannot send in the money unless tax has been paid and the tax jumped considerably once knowledge of the petty cash got out. H refused to pay and the parcel was confiscated and sent back to the sender. No news on if the parcel was reclaimed by B. My relative went to the local police and filed a complain. Unfortunately, since Malaysia is a corrupted country to begin with, nothing much could be done. It's possible that she has also paid another tax but I'm not too sure about it.
To cover the losses and as a sign of his apology, B tells her that he'll send a huge amount of money by depositing them into a bank account of hers. I told her to use Western Union but he didn't want to since the money is of a very huge amount. H opens a new account on the advice of her bank and supplied the information to her beau. I'm not sure why this fuck-up happened but she sent in the wrong account number, missing one number and told B to rectify the matter.
Yesterday, she received an email from a 'Dr Jacob Che' stating that the money is floating and directionless. She has to supply an implausible document or pay money amounting to 1% of the total money being sent to recover the funds. This is where I immediately stepped in and told her not to reply to 'Dr Jacob Che' and to forward any future correspondences to me. She has replied to the guy though saying that her bank thought otherwise and she would not pay anything to him and he has replied saying he will contact the fund originator. B has stated that he does not know who the man is.
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Said relative has serious plans about her relationship with B and on the one hand I'd like to hope that it is the real deal but on the other, I don't trust this guy. She has talked to him multiple times over the phone but never via webcam. He has requested it but she declined because at that time her webcam wasn't working. For a businessman who has amassed a considerable fortune, he seems to me to be quite unsavvy about his money. I'm hoping that this 'Dr Jacob Che' has simply gotten information about the transaction and hopes to gain money out of it but I really don't know what the reality is. 'Dr Jacob Che' even knows that wrong information has been supplied and efforts were made to rectify it. There's a common theme between the two money-involved incidents too and that is Malaysia. According to 'Dr Jacob Che', it is the government of Malaysia that has confiscated the money.
I'd like to reiterate that H seems to be quite involved with B though I don't know the true extent of her relationship. I wouldn't be able to provide their email exchanges unless there's a water-tight argument I can provide and also because most of their conversations took place on skype or over the phone. I can provide the email from 'Dr Jacob Che'. It troubles me that he knows the exact amount of the transaction and its details. Do you know what's going on here?
Thank you, if you've reached this point!
However, she holds a company email address so I don't know how to obtain headers I haven't actually seen the way the email service is formatted though so I might be able to come up with something once I get hold of the computer.
On to the information. I was hesitant earlier to give the full details to either message boards but I'm assuming this site would be alright, I'll just provide as much as I can without divulging names since I don't have the numbers at hand anyway:
Relative, let's call her H from now on is a divorcee and frequently talks to people she meets on Skype. She's quite savvy in that she isn't normally smitten by any random dude who talks to her as I've frequently warned her of the dangers of online relationships. Just recently, she met a guy from the UK claiming to be a businessman of sorts with huge inheritance who is about her age, a widower with no children and like her sick of being single. They strike up a friendship and exchanged pictures (I've seen them showing the person at home on the sofa, posing by his car, and a close-up of his face) unfortunately she has also included pictures of her closest relatives namely myself and another guy including some random information about us of which I'm not too sure about. They've gotten closer and are talking about marriage and moving to another country.
The country in question is Latin American and I've warned her of the dangers of said country as it as very high homicide rate per capita. She expressed said concern and the guy in question (let's call him B) says he will move to our country instead and set up business here. During this period in time, B sent a parcel of goods to my relative containing books,chocolates etc. He didn't tell her that he placed a substantial amount of petty cash and she got to know of this when the parcel was confiscated at the Malaysian Customs. We do not reside in Malaysia. According to the customs officer who called her, it is illegal to send petty cash of huge amounts via mail and to avoid getting incarcerated, she has to send him a bribe in the thousands of Malaysian currency.
She didn't want to be jailed so she sent the money assuming it's okay since for her it is a small amount. Then the courier company calls and claims that they cannot send in the money unless tax has been paid and the tax jumped considerably once knowledge of the petty cash got out. H refused to pay and the parcel was confiscated and sent back to the sender. No news on if the parcel was reclaimed by B. My relative went to the local police and filed a complain. Unfortunately, since Malaysia is a corrupted country to begin with, nothing much could be done. It's possible that she has also paid another tax but I'm not too sure about it.
To cover the losses and as a sign of his apology, B tells her that he'll send a huge amount of money by depositing them into a bank account of hers. I told her to use Western Union but he didn't want to since the money is of a very huge amount. H opens a new account on the advice of her bank and supplied the information to her beau. I'm not sure why this fuck-up happened but she sent in the wrong account number, missing one number and told B to rectify the matter.
Yesterday, she received an email from a 'Dr Jacob Che' stating that the money is floating and directionless. She has to supply an implausible document or pay money amounting to 1% of the total money being sent to recover the funds. This is where I immediately stepped in and told her not to reply to 'Dr Jacob Che' and to forward any future correspondences to me. She has replied to the guy though saying that her bank thought otherwise and she would not pay anything to him and he has replied saying he will contact the fund originator. B has stated that he does not know who the man is.
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Said relative has serious plans about her relationship with B and on the one hand I'd like to hope that it is the real deal but on the other, I don't trust this guy. She has talked to him multiple times over the phone but never via webcam. He has requested it but she declined because at that time her webcam wasn't working. For a businessman who has amassed a considerable fortune, he seems to me to be quite unsavvy about his money. I'm hoping that this 'Dr Jacob Che' has simply gotten information about the transaction and hopes to gain money out of it but I really don't know what the reality is. 'Dr Jacob Che' even knows that wrong information has been supplied and efforts were made to rectify it. There's a common theme between the two money-involved incidents too and that is Malaysia. According to 'Dr Jacob Che', it is the government of Malaysia that has confiscated the money.
I'd like to reiterate that H seems to be quite involved with B though I don't know the true extent of her relationship. I wouldn't be able to provide their email exchanges unless there's a water-tight argument I can provide and also because most of their conversations took place on skype or over the phone. I can provide the email from 'Dr Jacob Che'. It troubles me that he knows the exact amount of the transaction and its details. Do you know what's going on here?
Thank you, if you've reached this point!
