#175624 by paulrossscam
Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:22 pm
PAUL ROSS CHURCH SCAM ALERT!
Written September 3, 2013
Update: It just so happens that within a week or two of posting this warning that I have been contacted by a Paul Ross who sells real estate and claims this post has adversely affected his business. He says he almost lost a job over it. He has been a victim of identity fraud. So let me be clear: The following scam alert has NOTHING TO DO WITH REAL ESTATE who happened to be named Paul Ross, even if they have a similar criminal record to the scammer. The following concerns only CHURCHES WHO ARE BEING REQUESTED TO WIRE MONEY TO A STRANGER, NOT TO PEOPLE SEEKING TO FIND OUT INFORMATION ABOUT A PAUL ROSS WHO HAS A LEGITIMATE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS.
In the last month, I was contacted over the phone by a man identifying himself as Paul Ross. He said he was trying to move to our community because he had inherited a home from his deceased grandmother. He gave what seemed to be a local name, and said the trust had sent him the deed, keys, and information about the home. But the address he gave me was not quite correct (street name lined up but not the house number). He blamed this on recent 911 address updates.
He shared that he was in prison the last 15+ years and hasn't seen any family, or knew anyone living around here. He wanted financial help for gas money to come.
He had recently been released from federal prison. Prior to that he had also been in state prison in Arizona. He even gave me his ID number so I could look up his state record on the department of corrections website. It was there but the dates on record had ended over 20 years ago. He said his federal record was not available under privacy laws so he couldn't send that to me.
He was calling Bible churches in the area for help because he had gotten involved in a Bible Study in prison and came to Christ. He was hoping to get connected with a church here once he moved.
He also said he had to get out of his friend's apartment by 3:00 that afternoon because he lived in federal subsidized housing and he had stayed there too long already. The police would come and kick him out, or worse, charge him with vagrancy or something else and he could easily end up in jail. He needed help with gas money immediately.
So I googled his name and found a scam alert of churches he had visited in another state. I then called this agency and talked to a couple individuals, even receiving calls back from the new executive director who was very concerned and wanting any new information we had on him. All I knew was that he wanted me to wire the money to a town in a state near that one where he was currently staying.
Due to this fact, I did not give him any money. He called me back a week later saying he had made it to town but was wondering why we hadn't gotten back to him. I asked where he was staying and if I could meet with him. He refused to say where and would not meet with me. He asked why I didn't call back and after I told him a few things the phone went dead. I am sure he is trying to revise and improve his story so that less people can "figure it out" that he is trying to scam them.
In the future,
IF ANYONE IS CURRENTLY BEING SCAMMED BY PAUL ROSS:
I have a suggestion. Play along with him ask where to send the money, etc... Once you find out, also contact the local police in the town where he is. Tell them where the money is supposed to be sent, and the time he was planning to pick it up. Ask if they are interested in doing a stake-out and watching for him to show up and claim his money. They may need to talk to someone who has actually been scammed by him in order to be able to do anything about it. Since he did not officially scam me, I cannot charge him with anything. They can question him and see if he has falsified any information.
The end goal is to stop Paul Ross from continuing to take advantage of good-hearted people who want to help others in need, but not enable them to keep lying, scamming, and abusing their good will.
Written September 3, 2013
Update: It just so happens that within a week or two of posting this warning that I have been contacted by a Paul Ross who sells real estate and claims this post has adversely affected his business. He says he almost lost a job over it. He has been a victim of identity fraud. So let me be clear: The following scam alert has NOTHING TO DO WITH REAL ESTATE who happened to be named Paul Ross, even if they have a similar criminal record to the scammer. The following concerns only CHURCHES WHO ARE BEING REQUESTED TO WIRE MONEY TO A STRANGER, NOT TO PEOPLE SEEKING TO FIND OUT INFORMATION ABOUT A PAUL ROSS WHO HAS A LEGITIMATE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS.
In the last month, I was contacted over the phone by a man identifying himself as Paul Ross. He said he was trying to move to our community because he had inherited a home from his deceased grandmother. He gave what seemed to be a local name, and said the trust had sent him the deed, keys, and information about the home. But the address he gave me was not quite correct (street name lined up but not the house number). He blamed this on recent 911 address updates.
He shared that he was in prison the last 15+ years and hasn't seen any family, or knew anyone living around here. He wanted financial help for gas money to come.
He had recently been released from federal prison. Prior to that he had also been in state prison in Arizona. He even gave me his ID number so I could look up his state record on the department of corrections website. It was there but the dates on record had ended over 20 years ago. He said his federal record was not available under privacy laws so he couldn't send that to me.
He was calling Bible churches in the area for help because he had gotten involved in a Bible Study in prison and came to Christ. He was hoping to get connected with a church here once he moved.
He also said he had to get out of his friend's apartment by 3:00 that afternoon because he lived in federal subsidized housing and he had stayed there too long already. The police would come and kick him out, or worse, charge him with vagrancy or something else and he could easily end up in jail. He needed help with gas money immediately.
So I googled his name and found a scam alert of churches he had visited in another state. I then called this agency and talked to a couple individuals, even receiving calls back from the new executive director who was very concerned and wanting any new information we had on him. All I knew was that he wanted me to wire the money to a town in a state near that one where he was currently staying.
Due to this fact, I did not give him any money. He called me back a week later saying he had made it to town but was wondering why we hadn't gotten back to him. I asked where he was staying and if I could meet with him. He refused to say where and would not meet with me. He asked why I didn't call back and after I told him a few things the phone went dead. I am sure he is trying to revise and improve his story so that less people can "figure it out" that he is trying to scam them.
In the future,
IF ANYONE IS CURRENTLY BEING SCAMMED BY PAUL ROSS:
I have a suggestion. Play along with him ask where to send the money, etc... Once you find out, also contact the local police in the town where he is. Tell them where the money is supposed to be sent, and the time he was planning to pick it up. Ask if they are interested in doing a stake-out and watching for him to show up and claim his money. They may need to talk to someone who has actually been scammed by him in order to be able to do anything about it. Since he did not officially scam me, I cannot charge him with anything. They can question him and see if he has falsified any information.
The end goal is to stop Paul Ross from continuing to take advantage of good-hearted people who want to help others in need, but not enable them to keep lying, scamming, and abusing their good will.