Babysitting scam ??

My daughter got this she is pretty sure it's a scam some obvious alarm bells. They got her name because she signed up with a on line babysittng service. Not sure how active this site is but hopefully some one responds soon. I'm definitely telling her not to email anymore but just looking for some confirmation.

- person misspells own name
- mixes up daughter names
- ask to deposit money in her account

read from bottom to top to get flow right

Thanks

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: sabrina luiz <[email protected]>
To:
Sent: Mon, February 28, 2011 1:30:28 AM
Subject: Re: Caregiver

Hello ,

Thank you for the details. I do like to state the job details to you
again so we wouldn't have any complications at the end. The start is
March 13th and the end date is April 11th and you can also be our
long-term caregiver because we are on the verge of relocating to AL.
Her nap time ranges between 4:30pm to 5.15pm and she has no allergies.
You will be paid for her snacks/food daily or at the end of each week
(which ever you prefer).

I was in AL about 6months ago and had a caregiver but she moved to
Canada with her husband about 3months ago. I will be glad if we can
set up an interview on 12th and discuss about the kid-fun activities I
will be interested in getting to know each other. We could meet at
Village pizza 2505 lee Road 430 if that works for you.

I have once booked a nanny and on arrival she told us she got another
job which was a big disappointment. For this reason, my conscience
arrived at paying (DEPOSITING) you for the first week of your service
before our arrival to secure the date so we can be absolutely sure of
having you care for the kids to enable things go perfectly without
disappointment.

Am planning on having the wheelchair seller delivers it to you
immediately after payment, so you can have it ready for Ashley on our
arrival since the seller lives in Maryland. Hope that isn't a problem?
I will be looking forward to your email to ensure we are on the same
page.

Thanks and have a blessed day.

Thank You.
Sabrina. Luiz


On 2/27/11, > wrote:
> Hello Sabrina,
>
>
> When
> do you get into town? Would you like to try to meet up sometime before the
> 13th
> if your'e in town? Also, would you prefer for me to watch Jane at my house
> or go
> to your hotel? Like I said before my house is kind of far away from
> everything
> so it might be easier for me to go to your hotel or if you would like her to
> come to my house and have me pick her up and take her back here and then I
> can
> drop her off or you could come and pick her up after? Any of these options
> would
> work for me! We can work out what ever you would prefer!
>

>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: sabrina luiz <[email protected]>
> To:
> Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 1:05:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Caregiver
>
> Hello ,
>
> Thank you for your response. The schedule is alright and I look
> forward to meeting you soon and I do hope I can count on you as my
> daughter’s care provider. I am willing to pay $15 per hour. Attached
> with this email is a picture of me and Jane. It will be nice to see
> your picture too if you have one on your computer, so we can know who
> we are meeting. Am not sure if I added this to my first email but I am
> also hearing impaired. Jane is currently placed on a wheelchair due to
> an accident she had a few months ago from which we lost her father.
> She can walk a few distances though but the specialist advised she
> uses the chair for a while. I am planning on getting her a power
> wheelchair on our arrival. I will be glad if you can get back to me
> with your following information to know more about you.
>
> NAME:
> ADDRESS:
> CITY:
> ZIP CODE:
> MOBILE #: (If I need to pass urgent information.)
>
> Thank You.
> Sabrina. Luiz
>
>
> On 2/26/11, wrote:
>> Those dates would work for me. So you would like for me to care for her at
>> my home? If so we live in its kinda far away from everythin
>> but I would be willing to come get her if you would like. Also, what would
>> you want to pay me? Also do you have all my info with my references and
>> such? If you need anything else let me know!
>>
>> Thanks so much!
>
>>
>> sabrina luiz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Hello
>>>
>>>Thank you for replying to my job opening. I am Dr. Sabrina Luis. I do
>>>hope to have a good job reference with you at the end. I am visiting
>>>the state for a short time with my daughter who will be 2yrs old in
>>>May. I am a Medical counselor for the Deaf and the Blind. I have a
>>>four weeks tutorials with the hearing impaired at the Department of
>>>Communicative Disorders and Deaf Studies in the state and will need a
>>>help with my daughter from 4pm to 8pm, Mondays through Fridays only.
>>>The start date is March 13th and the end date is April 11th. Let me
>>>know where you would like to care for her. We have the option of
>>>dropping her at your house or you coming for her in the hotel. Either
>>>ways works fine with me. I just want to make sure she is fine.
>>>
>>>Kindly let me know if the dates and time works fine with you. I look
>>>forward to your email so as to proceed with further arrangement.
>>>
>>>Thank You!
>>>Sabrina Luis
>>
>
>

Yes - I'm sorry to say it's a scam.

There are some clear West African turns of phrase and the story sounds weird, particularly the idea of a child under two years old in a motorised wheelchair.

The usual tactic is to get a person to bank a counterfeit cheque, and then ask them to pay some portion of the funds elsewhere, which will end up back in their hands, so that all you've done is exchange a worthless fake into cash. These scammers know how to work it well and I suspect that the portion your daughter will be paying on will be the supposed payment for the wheelchair. They can get their hands on a Western Union payment and you'll see from how easily they send you a cheque, and yet insist on you making payment in a cash form. Once you know what's coming it's easier to spot. Why can't she (he) issue two cheques ? Easy - the scam doesn't work otherwise.

If you accept a cheque in payment for anything, never ever pass any part of the money on to anyone else - it's classic counterfeit cheque fraud.

- person misspells own name
- mixes up daughter names

Not uncommon with scams.

Am planning on having the wheelchair seller delivers it to you
immediately after payment, so you can have it ready for Ashley on our
arrival since the seller lives in Maryland. Hope that isn't a problem?
I will be looking forward to your email to ensure we are on the same
page.

I think this is likely to be the method of manipulating you into the scam. i suspect that you'll be sent a counterfeit cheque and then be expected to send a Western Union payment to the wheelchair seller, and the money will just go to the scammer.

They'll never outline the deal in full at the outset but, of course, they feel you'll be unable to refuse once you've agreed to work for a disabled child. That's how sick scammers are.

It's highly unlikely that a disabled child would be left to use a wheelchair for the first time in the company of a stranger, and never a motorised one.

I wanted to post to you all that this happened to me yesterday morning about 5amCT time.i'm in TN.
everything from HER is in black.
This person was "texting me"via yahoo on my blackberry but i don't have yahoo! on my phone..She apparently has my cell #...

Soo..here is the first msg:
Same email!

Hello

Thank you for replying to my job opening. I am Dr. Luiz Sabrina. I do
hope to have a good job reference with you at the end. I am visiting
the state for a short time with my daughter who will be 4yrs old in
May. I am a Medical counselor at the Arizona State Schools for the
Deaf and the Blind. I have a four weeks tutorials with the hearing
impaired at the Department of Communicative Disorders and Deaf
Studies, at the State University of Medicine and will need a help with
my daughter from 4pm to 8pm, Mondays through Fridays only. The start
date is May 23rd and the end date is June 20th. Let me know where you
would like to care for her. We have the option of dropping her at your
house or you coming for her in the hotel. Either ways works fine with
me. I just want to make sure she is fine.
Kindly let me know if the dates and time works fine with you. I look
forward to your email so as to proceed with further arrangement.

Thank You.
Luiz Sabrina.


It was a little suspcious so i searched the internet and found this thread..so i was like..hmm ok. so i CALLED care4hire. They told me to watch for any thing on it..its a scam,and to fwd them any emails.Soo..i did. I told them i was gonna keep this going to see how much info i would get out of this person.


Here is what i told her:
I'm really interested in this job and will do whatever i can to get this
> job.Thanks.

Then "she"replied:
(its just like the posters msg!)
Hello ,

Thank you for your response. The schedule is alright and I look
forward to meeting you soon and I do hope I can count on you as my
daughter’s care provider. I am willing to pay $15 per hour. Attached
with this email is a picture of me and Jane. It will be nice to see
your picture too if you have one on your computer, so we can know who
we are meeting. Am not sure if I added this to my first email but I am
also hearing impaired. Jane is currently placed on a wheelchair due to
an accident she had a few months ago from which we lost her father.
She can walk a few distances though but the specialist advised she
uses the chair for a while. I am planning on getting her a power
wheelchair on our arrival. I will be glad if you can get back to me
with your following information to know more about you.

NAME:
ADDRESS:
CITY:
ZIP CODE:
MOBILE #: (If I need to pass urgent information.)

Thank You.
Luiz Sabrina.

I told "her"this:
I gave her FAKE info.. you think i'm gonna give you my real info? LOL soo this is what i told her:

NAME:Elizabeth wade > ADDRESS: 2128 circle st > CITY:nashville,tn> ZIP
> CODE:37211> MOBILE #: (If I need to pass urgent information.)(my phone was
> just shut off.)
> How will you pay?

Then she said:
"Hello Elizabeth ,

I got your message. Thank you for your concern.I try to locate the
address you give me but the address was not found.look into it and get
back to me with correct address.
Thank ."
I told her this:
I live in a place where my address is not located..my only address is a PO box at the moment..
Do you have a phone # i can call you with?i mean you are in the US...

Also,i need to know what your Member ID is on care4hire..so that way i can look on your page if you don't mind

So far no msg.
Here is her "photo'" she is sending:


if i get anymore,i'll post...Thought ya'll should know this scammer is still doing this.

I got almost the same email. They posted on my school's employment site and I contacted them. They even sent the same picture that somebody else posted. After reading this, however, I'm not going to respond anymore. Except with a 'screw you'. This was the post. Notice how her name changed...that is what made me suspicious..

> Hello ,
>
> Thank you for your response. The schedule is alright and I look
> forward to meeting you soon and I do hope I can count on you as my
> daughter’s care provider. I am willing to pay $15 per hour. Attached
> with this email is a picture of me and Ashley. It will be nice to see
> your picture too if you have one on your computer, so we can know who
> we are meeting. Am not sure if I added this to my first email but I am
> also hearing impaired. Ashley is currently placed on a wheelchair due
> to an accident she had a few months ago from which we lost her father.
> She can walk a few distances though but the specialist advised she
> uses the chair for a while. I am planning on getting her a power
> wheelchair on our arrival. I will be glad if you can get back to me
> with your following information to know more about you.
>
> NAME:
> ADDRESS:
> CITY:
> ZIP CODE:
> MOBILE #: (If I need to pass urgent information.)
>
> Thank You.
> Luiz Sabrina.
>
>
> On 5/12/11, xxx wrote:
> >
> > Hi Dr. Pedro,I would love to care for your daughter, but unfortunately I
> > work afternoons and evenings from 3:30PM until 10:30PM and will be out of
> > town on May 26th and 27th. Therefore, I don't think it could work out unless
> > you would need me in the morning or early afternoon. If that is a
> > possibility, I would be happy to discuss the position further. Otherwise, I
> > hope it works out for you to find somebody! Thanks so much for your time and
> > consideration,xxx
> >
> >> Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 10:01:18 +0200
> >> Subject: Re: CU job posting
> >> From: [email protected]
> >> To:
> >>
> >> Hello xxx,
> >>
> >> Thank you for replying to my job opening. I am Dr. Jane Pedro. I do
> >> hope to have a good job reference with you at the end. I am visiting
> >> the state for a short time with my daughter who will be 4yrs old in
> >> May. I am a Medical counselor at the Arizona State Schools for the
> >> Deaf and the Blind. I have a four weeks tutorials with the hearing
> >> impaired at the Department of Communicative Disorders and Deaf
> >> Studies, at the State University of Medicine and will
> >> need a help with my daughter from 4pm to 8pm, Mondays through Fridays
> >> only. The start date is May 23rd and the end date is June 20th. Let
> >> me know where you would like to care for her. We have the option of
> >> dropping her at your house or you coming for her in the hotel. Either
> >> ways works fine with me. I just want to make sure she is fine.
> >>
> >> Kindly let me know if the dates and time works fine with you. I look
> >> forward to your email so as to proceed with further arrangement.
> >>
> >> Thank You.
> >> Jane Pedro.
> >>
> >> On 5/12/11, i wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi Jane,I found your posting on the CU employment website and am
> >> > interested
> >> > in the caretaker position. I am almost 23 years old, a recent graduate
> >> > of CU
> >> > in Molecular Biology, CPR and First Aid Certified and have future career
> >> > goals in healthcare. If it is still available, I would love to talk to
> >> > you
> >> > about the position and responsibilities! Hope you're having a nice
> >> > week!Sincerely,xxx
> >

So interesting. I got this e-mail this morning and I was a little uncomfortable with it. First of all, she mixed up where she lived. It just didnt seem right. So I googled her name. It took like 5 searches to find this. Thanks for sharing your experiences!


Hello Kylee,
Thank you for your response.I live in Missouri but i am moving to your
area on 1st of August. I will need a caregiver immediately between the
hours of 4pm through 8pm. Do let me know if the time works. More
importantly,My son is currently placed on a wheelchair due to an
accident he had some weeks ago.he can walk a few distance though but
the specialist advised he uses the chair for a while.The rate is
$15/hour.He is 4yrs old and i really need a honest and responsible
care for him. This could be a temporary/permanent job. It depends on
what your schedule looks like but i do like to be sure if you are
available the first month.I am planning on getting him a powered
wheelchair and have contacted a seller.I will let you know as soon as
we finalize issues.I will like you to send me your complete name,
address and cell phone number so i can include that to my payroll for
the period.I also will like you to tell me a few things about
yourself.

Here is a little about me. I am a single mother,I am 39 and i am hard
of hearing. I have lived in Hutchinson, Kansas all my life but i am
moving to your area in a few weeks. I have my own business(Self
Employed) which is based on the development and canceling of the deaf
people in the community. I am never married and a i attend the
catholic.You will get to know more when we meet.

Kindly include in your email your complete name,address and your
mobile number so i can text you in case i need to pass an urgent
information.

Thank You.
Jane

So interesting. I got this e-mail this morning and I was a little uncomfortable with it. First of all, she mixed up where she lived. It just didnt seem right. So I googled her name. It took like 5 searches to find this. Thanks for sharing your experiences!


Hello Kylee,
Thank you for your response.I live in Missouri but i am moving to your
area on 1st of August. I will need a caregiver immediately between the
hours of 4pm through 8pm. Do let me know if the time works. More
importantly,My son is currently placed on a wheelchair due to an
accident he had some weeks ago.he can walk a few distance though but
the specialist advised he uses the chair for a while.The rate is
$15/hour.He is 4yrs old and i really need a honest and responsible
care for him. This could be a temporary/permanent job. It depends on
what your schedule looks like but i do like to be sure if you are
available the first month.I am planning on getting him a powered
wheelchair and have contacted a seller.I will let you know as soon as
we finalize issues.I will like you to send me your complete name,
address and cell phone number so i can include that to my payroll for
the period.I also will like you to tell me a few things about
yourself.

Here is a little about me. I am a single mother,I am 39 and i am hard
of hearing. I have lived in Hutchinson, Kansas all my life but i am
moving to your area in a few weeks. I have my own business(Self
Employed) which is based on the development and canceling of the deaf
people in the community. I am never married and a i attend the
catholic.You will get to know more when we meet.

Kindly include in your email your complete name,address and your
mobile number so i can text you in case i need to pass an urgent
information.

Thank You.
Jane

Welcome KYLEEANN,
I'm glad you were not scammed.
Could you please post the scammer's email address? It will help other victims who do a Google search.
Thank you!

I just went through the same scam,

Except the name of the scammer was Jane Pedro and it was through my University, they have of course tightened the requirements now to post off campus jobs.

her email was [email protected]

However, scammers change their emails all the time and fast.

Yep - It's a scam. I thought the original request was too good to be true. I live in MN and my son got this in his email for job postings at the COLLEGE he attends. I replied since I was interested

Caregiver
Employer Angel Christian

Date Posted 09/21/2011
Date for Hire 10/13/201
Contact Information

[email protected]
How to Apply
Apply via Email Yes [email protected]
Send Resume No
Call for
Application Processing No
Apply in Person No
Job Details
Full-Time Part-time
Weekend Work
Benefit Package Yes
Salary $15 per hour
Job Description
I am looking for a caregiver who is responsible and able to take good care of my 4 year old daughter. Please apply with resume
Special Qualifications
Education Required: At-least some college

SO, I sent her an email about myself and got this reply - almost identical to the others with a different name and different dates, although all for about 1 month.

Hello

Thank you for replying to my job opening. I am Dr. Angel Christian. I
do hope to have a good job reference with you at the end. I am
visiting The state for a short time with my daughter who will be 4yrs
old in May. I am a Medical counselor at the Arizona State Schools for
the
Deaf and the Blind. I have a four weeks tutorials with the hearing
impaired at the Department of Communicative Disorders and Deaf
Studies, at the State University of Medicine and will
need a help with my daughter from 4pm to 8pm, Mondays through Fridays
only. The start date is October 18th and the end date is November
17th. Let me know where you would like to care for her. We have the
option of dropping her at your house or you coming for her in the
hotel. Either ways works fine with me. I just want to make sure she is
fine.

Kindly let me know if the dates and time works fine with you. I look
forward to your email so as to proceed with further arrangement.

Thank You.
Angel Christian


---Any typos are from the actual sender - I just copied and pasted. ---

So, I hope this helps others out there who are now getting requests from a bogus Angel Christian.

Blessings to all,
Karen

Wow, I got this same scam as well, I knew it didnt sound right. Without getting into to much detail, here were some of the specifics and email address. But I agree with the above comment, that these scammers probably change these email addresses all the time:

Caregiver
Employer Jean Mayberry

Date Posted 07/20/2011
Date for Hire 09/20/2011
Contact Information

[email protected]
How to Apply
Apply via Email Yes [email protected]

I just got scammed by this too! Told me to meet her at a hotel and then she never came. She said that she send me an email saying she moved the date to the 31st, but I never got that email. She also said the start date is the 27th of October and now she wants to meet again on the 31st. I am not going

Thought sounded fishy.... searched everywhere for the name I was given then started searching the workplace then finally the position and found this. The new scam name is jaqueline Mccallah from Alabama is a counselor with the Alabama school for deaf and blind has a job opening here with everest college and has a daughter named Sarah who is partially wheelchair bound and lost the husband in an accident. The email is [email protected] sent me a picture of a little girl and her mom asked for mine. Horribly offensive to the hearing impaired. Sick that they are using assumed stolen photos of families. They found me on care4hire.com I have sent an email to them and deleted my account. Glad I figured it out before the got more than my name and email. Hope someone finds this helpful.

Hello 

Thank you for replying to my job opening. I am Dr. Jaqueline Mccullah. I do hope to have a good reference with you at the end. I am relocating to Florida with my daughter who will be 4 years old in March and seeking a good caregiver for her for the first 5months. I am employing two caregivers for the first 5 months because I need a long-term caregiver and will love to know Sarah's comment on each of the babysitters, to decide who is going to be with her permanently. I am a Medical counselor at the Alabama State Schools for the Deaf and the Blind. I am starting a new appointment with the hearing impaired at Everest University and Healthcare Career Training Programs. I will be needing two babysitters for mornings (11am - 4pm) and evenings(4pm to 9pm), Mondays through Fridays respectively because I work long hours. The start date is February 20th and the end date is July 27th. Let me know the schedule that suits you and where you would like to care for her? We have the option of dropping her at your house or you coming for her at the hotel. Either ways works fine with me. I just want to make sure she is fine. I will be glad if we can set up an interview on 16th  February and discuss about the kid-fun activities, I will be interested in getting to know each other. 

Kindly let me know if the dates and time works fine with you. I look forward to your email so as to proceed with further arrangement.

Thank You

Hello ,
 
Thank you for your response. The schedule is alright and I am willing to pay $15 per hour. We are looking forward to lodging in a hotel that's close to you to ease your movement before we secure a comfortable accommodation.  Attached with this email is a picture of me and Sarah. It will be nice to see your picture too if you have one on your computer, so we can know who we are meeting. Am not sure if I added this to my first email but I deaf and dumb. Sarah is currently placed on a wheelchair due to an accident she had a few months ago from which we lost her father but she's not disable. She can walk a few distances though but the specialist advised she uses the chair for a while. I am planning on getting her a power wheelchair on our arrival. I will be glad if you can get back to me with your following information:
 
NAME:
ADDRESS:
CITY:
ZIP CODE:
MOBILE #: (If I need to pass urgent information.)

I will also be glad if you can get back to me to me with some references to know more about you.

Thank You

Ps guys whatever number you put on care4hire shows on your profile look yourself up on their website when this person found me I was like how did she get my info? So I went into my profile and thought it was my error that I didn't hit for my number not to be shown. So i changed it and thought it had been fixed went back later and it was still showing and when I went to edit it showed that I had chose to not show my number so I finally just changed my number to 000000000 because a telephone number is required for your profile. I just deleted the whole thing today. I partially blame the care4hire system for giving out my information even though I specified against it. Check your profiles