by George
nsherman wrote:I hope that somebody knowledgeable will warn brigat.com re this matter.Unfortunately most B2B sites are well known for their disinterest in dealing with scam posters.
Cheers,
Nicholas
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by nsherman
Following the simple logic B2B sites support scammers... It is a shame to support criminals.
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by TerranceBoyce
The shame is that scammers don't only infest B2B sites, but dating and romance sites as well as employment ones too.
I won't name names but these sites must take action for the sake of their own survival. Many have filthy reputations and, at the stage no one trusts their content, they no longer have a business. I have noticed that one UK employment company is removing Facebook comments from people mentioning scams that they are receiving, which is not the way to deal with the problem.
It isn't only the responsibility of these sites to protect their customers' details - it's their business.
I won't name names but these sites must take action for the sake of their own survival. Many have filthy reputations and, at the stage no one trusts their content, they no longer have a business. I have noticed that one UK employment company is removing Facebook comments from people mentioning scams that they are receiving, which is not the way to deal with the problem.
It isn't only the responsibility of these sites to protect their customers' details - it's their business.
CAR ADVERTS - If a car seller mentions escrow - he's scamming you Never ever for any reason pay anything until you have seen and inspected the vehicle
by jolly_roger
And also the so called dating sites are making money from the advertising they display. The owners of the website are making money from advertising.
If you look at many websites, you will probably notice that there are banner advertisements displayed on most pages. Advertisements can appear anywhere on the page. From what I've been told, anyone with a website can get advertisers. While it is true that if your site is well-known, you may get companies contacting you to offer to advertise on your site, you can get advertising revenue even if you are just starting out and your site is relatively unknown.
The way to do this is to join as an "affiliate" of various sites, either directly, or through an affiliate network. An affiliate network is simply an intermediary where you can select from a variety of advertisers.
There are two main payment schemes available.
One is the site owner is paid according to the number of times the advertiser's banner is displayed on a site. For example, a site owner may get paid 5 dollars (or whichever is the amount?) for 1,000 displays of the banner. In general, the amount paid is usually small, but it is easy to earn since every time a visitor loads the page, the sites owner is earning. This allows the so called dating site to automatically earn more if the site attracts lots of visitors. The other way is the Pay Per Click. When the sites owner is paid per click, they are only paid when visitors click on the ads on the site. The amount paid is usually higher than the banner scheme. To get a high conversion rate depends on the banner and whether it attracts people to click it. Generally it has a higher conversion rate.
The more visitors a site attracts means more revenue from advertisements which is good for the site owner. Ordinary people (such as us) don't receive any consideration because it's all about the revenue gained through advertising. Sad to say but the more clicks a site receives, the better it is. That is why many sites are infested with scammers. Their profiles attracts people and if scammers were banned or stopped from using the so called dating sites, the sites revenue stream would simply drop. I hope that explains it clearly.
If you look at many websites, you will probably notice that there are banner advertisements displayed on most pages. Advertisements can appear anywhere on the page. From what I've been told, anyone with a website can get advertisers. While it is true that if your site is well-known, you may get companies contacting you to offer to advertise on your site, you can get advertising revenue even if you are just starting out and your site is relatively unknown.
The way to do this is to join as an "affiliate" of various sites, either directly, or through an affiliate network. An affiliate network is simply an intermediary where you can select from a variety of advertisers.
There are two main payment schemes available.
One is the site owner is paid according to the number of times the advertiser's banner is displayed on a site. For example, a site owner may get paid 5 dollars (or whichever is the amount?) for 1,000 displays of the banner. In general, the amount paid is usually small, but it is easy to earn since every time a visitor loads the page, the sites owner is earning. This allows the so called dating site to automatically earn more if the site attracts lots of visitors. The other way is the Pay Per Click. When the sites owner is paid per click, they are only paid when visitors click on the ads on the site. The amount paid is usually higher than the banner scheme. To get a high conversion rate depends on the banner and whether it attracts people to click it. Generally it has a higher conversion rate.
The more visitors a site attracts means more revenue from advertisements which is good for the site owner. Ordinary people (such as us) don't receive any consideration because it's all about the revenue gained through advertising. Sad to say but the more clicks a site receives, the better it is. That is why many sites are infested with scammers. Their profiles attracts people and if scammers were banned or stopped from using the so called dating sites, the sites revenue stream would simply drop. I hope that explains it clearly.
by TerranceBoyce
I agree with you entirely jolly_roger but I would add that having scammers on their sites increases their numbers without providing anyone with a financial benefit, but posing a risk to those who might be of economic benefit to advertisers.
Quite simply those sites that don't take positive action to exclude scammers, or who actually make members details available to scammers should be shunned. Our site moderators aren't Gods (they may disagree
) who have special psychic powers, but scammers who come here are removed speedily and methodically. It's not an impossible task by far.
I'm not actually saying anything revolutionary, but merely stating the obvious, that it's unsafe to give your personal details to a site that doesn't treat them securely, and who don't take action to exclude scammers. It's for the benefit of the sites too, as a site consisting merely of scammers has no worth to anyone.
... and I didn't even mention ad sites.
Quite simply those sites that don't take positive action to exclude scammers, or who actually make members details available to scammers should be shunned. Our site moderators aren't Gods (they may disagree
) who have special psychic powers, but scammers who come here are removed speedily and methodically. It's not an impossible task by far.I'm not actually saying anything revolutionary, but merely stating the obvious, that it's unsafe to give your personal details to a site that doesn't treat them securely, and who don't take action to exclude scammers. It's for the benefit of the sites too, as a site consisting merely of scammers has no worth to anyone.
... and I didn't even mention ad sites.
CAR ADVERTS - If a car seller mentions escrow - he's scamming you Never ever for any reason pay anything until you have seen and inspected the vehicle
by jolly_roger
That's quite true Terrance. As with any business, it's money and profits make the world go around. And as we so often see the ordinary honest folk often get run over in the process. We're often told what's good for business is good for everybody. So officialdom tell us. Have no fear, I was not pointing any fingers toward this website whatsoever because the moderators of this and other scam reporting websites do a super brilliant job under trying circumstances. They do a lot of work behind the scenes and I know they keep a tight grip on the reigns here. And so they should. I think more could be done by these so called dating sites to rid themselves of scam profiles, but I think action is sadly lacking. Too many of those sites are just like breeding grounds for the thieving scoundrels. But I honestly believe the tide is turning as more and more honest folk become better educated in regards to scams. I do realise there is still a hell of along way to go.