#59531 by John DeLaney
Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:22 am
Edit to add new information as at 15/1/2012
The Seattle Wolves Football Club closed in 2009, they have recently reformed and their real website is here http://seawolvesfc.com/
This is not connected in anyway with the website as posted by the scammers mentioned in the following pages or posts.
The Seattle Wolves DO NOT have a club in England, there is not nor ever has been a football club by that name in England.
This is a typical scam approach to a manufacturing company, there will be a large order placed, at some stage a company cheque/bank cheque will be sent, then the order will be unfortunately cancelled. The purchaser will tell the manufacturing company they can keep 10% or other % for their inconvenience, and to refund the remainder.
Edit to clarify 15/1/2012: The way the scam works is that you will be requested to deal with a "lawyer" that the scammer produces, before you receive any payment, you will be required to forward by Western Union the "lawyers" fees, plus the scammers cut of the deal. Once you have done this, the scammer will then drop all contact with you, or demand further "lawyer" payments due to some slight iregularity.
The cheque will eventually be found to be fraudulent, the Manufacturer will have to refund the bank for any money used against the fake cheque.
This exchange is supposedly from a Football Club in England. Their website http://seattlewolvesunitedfc.blogspot.com/ has no mention of Carus Hernandez int he capacity he claims, nor do they mention any of the activities he claims to be promoting. The phone number given by the purchaser is not a contact number for any of the club officials, it is a British redirect number, beginning 44-70, and his emails originate from the Netherlands.
The above is the first approach made on this website
http://www.globalsources.com/
Which is a website dedicated to linking manufacturers and purchasers.
Mr Hernandez then sent this followup
Followed by this
Next in reply to a query from the manufacturer
Then a later followup
At this stage I received the following email from the manufacturer
Just from the brief excerpt they provided I informed the manufacturer that this was a scam. They then sent me the full exchange, as above, and from that I have no doubt that this would have turned into a very expensive exchange for the manufacturer.
There is no requirement for an Affidavit of Oath, the language used is typical of a West African scammer, the poor knowledge of the British trading laws, and the insistence on a local lawyer means that the company would also have received substantial charges for fees from the "lawyer" to represent them.
The company have asked me again if I am sure that this is a scam as the size of the order represents a substantial order for them. As much as I would have liked to tell them it is legitimate, I have found nothing to make me change my mind about Clarus Hernandez, and they would have lost a substantial amount of money, materials and overhead costs if they had proceeded.
This is a scam.
Edit to add: This is the fake contract you will receive
The Seattle Wolves Football Club closed in 2009, they have recently reformed and their real website is here http://seawolvesfc.com/
This is not connected in anyway with the website as posted by the scammers mentioned in the following pages or posts.
The Seattle Wolves DO NOT have a club in England, there is not nor ever has been a football club by that name in England.
This is a typical scam approach to a manufacturing company, there will be a large order placed, at some stage a company cheque/bank cheque will be sent, then the order will be unfortunately cancelled. The purchaser will tell the manufacturing company they can keep 10% or other % for their inconvenience, and to refund the remainder.
Edit to clarify 15/1/2012: The way the scam works is that you will be requested to deal with a "lawyer" that the scammer produces, before you receive any payment, you will be required to forward by Western Union the "lawyers" fees, plus the scammers cut of the deal. Once you have done this, the scammer will then drop all contact with you, or demand further "lawyer" payments due to some slight iregularity.
The cheque will eventually be found to be fraudulent, the Manufacturer will have to refund the bank for any money used against the fake cheque.
This exchange is supposedly from a Football Club in England. Their website http://seattlewolvesunitedfc.blogspot.com/ has no mention of Carus Hernandez int he capacity he claims, nor do they mention any of the activities he claims to be promoting. The phone number given by the purchaser is not a contact number for any of the club officials, it is a British redirect number, beginning 44-70, and his emails originate from the Netherlands.
Mr clarus hernandez from G.C and Sons Ltd, United Kingdom is interested in your company information on Global Sources Online and would like you to reply to this inquiry.
The buyer probably sent this inquiry to other suppliers as well. Stand out from your competition, be the first to reply today!
The above is the first approach made on this website
http://www.globalsources.com/
Which is a website dedicated to linking manufacturers and purchasers.
Mr Hernandez then sent this followup
Dear Sir/Ma
I am interested in buying Promotional Umbrella.
So therefore am sourcing for good price and best quality, if you know that you can deliver please get back to me so that i can give you my specifications.
Kindly send your response directly to my e-mail ( [email protected] ).
Best Regards
Clarus Hernandez 024
+447024011976
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Please respond to the buyer quickly as this will improve your chances of getting an order.
Followed by this
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 11:44 PM
Subject: AGENT CLARUS HERNANDEZ.....24 / I ATTACHED DIFFERENT SAMPLES OF THE PROMOTIONAL UMBRELLA AND SPECIFICATIONS OF WHAT THE FOOTBALL CLUB WANTS
Dear Sir/Ma,
Thanks for your response, this is a new project that Seattle Wolves Football Club of England is trying to introduced into their other souvenirs for their football fans, for the up coming league, so the ability of your firm to get it right, we determine future Order to be produced.
(i) Please before we proceed on this business I want you to understand that I like doing business with honest people, I have reason for saying this last year I experience a disappointment from a firm in Malaysia after linking them to a football club for a contract work and also running around to make sure I arrange a lawyer for them that will stand on their company's behalf here in England on an agreement of my commission, they disappointed me by given me less than the percentage we agreed, secondly I want you to understand that am just an agent am not the one issuing out the contract, what the management wants is Promotional Umbrella with their Football Club LOGO and name SEATTLE'S WOLVES FOOTBALL CLUB OF ENGLAND printed at each sides of the Umbrella, like I describe for you in my previous mail to you on the trading site for wolves football club fans, so if u are to prepare you proforma invoice it has to come with your company full contact address signed by the director of your firm and should also include the shipping cost, make sure you address the invoice to the Management of Wolves United Football Club and send it to my email for me to go through it and correct some things to avoid rejection ,before I can give you the Wolves Football Club Management contact for you to forward your invoice, all this should be done to avoid rejection from the management, like I told you we have many competitors, other firms with different agents are also struggling for the same contract,so I will like us to put hands together and work hard and see if the contract will be awarded to your company.
SPECIFICATION.
CHECK THE ATTACHED SAMPLE.
HAT UMBRELLA DESIGN:
16"*8k, metal frame, 190T polyester, logo printing on 1 panel
Colour Blue Quantity = 100,000pcs
Colour White Quantity = 100,000pcs
Total Production for Hat Umbrella Design = 200,000pieces
BEACH UMBRELLA DESIGN:
240cm*8k, manual open, metal frame, without tilt, 190T polyester, with base(20 litre), logo printing on 1 panel
Colour Blue Quantity = 100,000pcs
Colour Black Quantity = 100,000pcs
Total Production for Beach Umbrella Design = 200,000pieces
TOTAL PRODUCTION FOR BOTH DESIGNS= 400,000pcs
Printing Football Club Logo and Name at Each Side of the Umbrella
(ii) Note: that you have to add 5% per Umbrella which will be my commission an it will be transfer to my account as soon as the fund for the manufacturing of the Umbrella is transferred to your companies account by the Seattle Wolves United Football Club, and should be a secret between me and you, and should be out of sight in the invoice.
(iii) If you make your target prize $1.5USD and $10.00USD respectively per Umbrella I think the management of Wolves United Football Club will consider it because other firms has been coming with $2.00USD and $11.00USD respectively per Umbrella, the Football Club has been rejecting their Proforma Invoice, the delivery date should be by 4th week of October 2011 because the Umbrella is for their football fans for this second division Pepsi league that is starting on first week of October 2011.
(iv) Based on my previous experience if your are lucky enough and the contract is awarded to your firm the contract documents will be sent to you to sign and return to their office. They will immediately instruct there bank to transfer 85% of the total production money into your company's account for the production to start up then 15% balance will also be wired before shipment, Within 3 to 4 days the first 85% of the production is transferred to your account, i will fly down to your country with the empirical samples to monitor the production for few days, so we have to be a little bit fast because time is very short and the management of Wolves United Football Club wants to issue out this contract soonest so we need to make sure your proforma invoice gets to the desk of their general manager soon.
(v) Finally and very important , I want to clarify you on one thing, based on my previous experience before the management of Wolves United Football Club will award you a contract you must have a recognized Lawyer in England that will stand on your company’s behalf and surety your firm on the contract for security of their fund since there mode of payment is T/T and only your bank confirmation is not 100% guaranty for safety of their fund. So please while we are struggling on getting the contract you should also find a recognized British lawyer in England Wolverhampton City.
Provide me with your direct mobile number and also give me a call.
Your early response will be appreciated.
Best Regards
Name: Clarus Hernandez 024
Business Name: G, C and sons Limited
Mobile: +447024011976
Email address: [email protected]
Next in reply to a query from the manufacturer
Dear Sir/Ma,
The price include shipping and my commission.
G.C. and Sons Ltd
1002 Central Drive, Swanton Morley,Dereham
Norfolk, nr20 4ld, United Kingdom,
+447024011976
Thanks
Best Regards
Clarus Hernandez024
Then a later followup
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 5:52 PM
Subject: ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING THE ORDER
Dear Sir/Ma,
Thanks for the response,I am happy to hear that your team management is ready to accommodate the orders. Our company is G, C and Sons Ltd, based in England, we are the Football Clubs major contractor, we source for good suppliers at a good price and good quality, for promotional gift items.
I am happy to hear that your team management is ready to accommodate the orders, I am very happy, I will like to inform you that I am taking 5% commission on this project i don't want you to forget that,and I will like to inform you that you should work tentatively with the scan samples for now, once the project is awarded to your firm, i will DHL the samples(5 different sizes) to your address, for now, it will not be possible to get the sample, because a lot of firms are seeking to get this project and we are trying to select which firm will do a good job, so work with the attachment that i sent you.
Regarding the lawyer issue is mandatory that you must have recognized British lawyer to handle the legal matters of this project on behalf of your firm, the lawyer is expected to come to the Management office with your Tax Clearance Certificate and a copy of your Certificate of Incorporation and lastly An Affidavit of Oath from the British Crown Court England, all these document the lawyer must present before your fund hits your firms account for the 85% cost of production,and note that, your firm will make some commitment to the Lawyer regarding his legal fee before he proceed on your work, but If is so difficult for you to find a recognized British lawyer here in England just let me know as your agent I can help you to find a lawyer here in Wolverhampton city provided your firm can take responsibility of his legal fees before he proceed on your work.
So I will advice you lets first secure the contract because you will only need a lawyer if the contract is awarded to your firm.
Confirm your understanding by replying. After you finish with your quotation send it back to me for review, because I will not want the Management of Football Club to turn down our Proforma Invoice. With this mail I attached the terms and condition of getting this project, so carefully go through it.
I await your response.
Best Regards
Clarus Hernandez024
Mobile: +447024011976
At this stage I received the following email from the manufacturer
Dear John,
I got your information from scamwarners and insist your help!
I got one agent in UK, they just contacted me for his project. However he asked our company must get a lawyer company in UK. They mentioned as below:
“Regarding the lawyer issue is mandatory that you must have recognized British lawyer to handle the legal matters of this project on behalf of your firm, the lawyer is expected to come to the Management office with your Tax Clearance Certificate and a copy of your Certificate of Incorporation and lastly An Affidavit of Oath from the British Crown Court England, all these document the lawyer must present before your fund hits your firms account for the 85% cost of production,and note that, your firm will make some commitment to the Lawyer regarding his legal fee before he proceed on your work, but If is so difficult for you to find a recognized British lawyer here in England just let me know as your agent I can help you to find a lawyer here in Wolverhampton city provided your firm can take responsibility of his legal fees before he proceed on your work”
The document they have asked, is that necessary to get Biz in UK?
Looking forward to hearing from you soonest
Thank you very much in advance
Warm regards,
Just from the brief excerpt they provided I informed the manufacturer that this was a scam. They then sent me the full exchange, as above, and from that I have no doubt that this would have turned into a very expensive exchange for the manufacturer.
There is no requirement for an Affidavit of Oath, the language used is typical of a West African scammer, the poor knowledge of the British trading laws, and the insistence on a local lawyer means that the company would also have received substantial charges for fees from the "lawyer" to represent them.
The company have asked me again if I am sure that this is a scam as the size of the order represents a substantial order for them. As much as I would have liked to tell them it is legitimate, I have found nothing to make me change my mind about Clarus Hernandez, and they would have lost a substantial amount of money, materials and overhead costs if they had proceeded.
This is a scam.
Edit to add: This is the fake contract you will receive
Last edited by John DeLaney on Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:16 pm, edited 5 times in total.
John DeLaney