Vw t25 camper [email protected]

[Amber1970]

Well there goes my savings and my dignity on replying to my local Friday ad advertising t25 vw camper 1991 for sale in Worthing price £4000 the seller Evelyn Hudson e mailed back that it was in good condition and still for sale was unable to view due to work commitments in Scotland she then sent me a listing for a buy it now on eBay. The purchase was said to be covered by the eBay buyers protection scream where I deposited the payment in a Barclays Bank account until delivery and vetting of the van sound familiar I then received an invoice in the eBay format whith a link to eBay customer services who verified the transaction and I subsequently stupidly paid into bank account samara b . 1352518 sort code20-53 -34 Barclays London £4000 pounds all my saving lost have reported to Friday ad about scam but item still advertised eBay police and bank tomorrow. Don't have much hope on ever seeing my monies but could do with some advice as to where to pursue this as I'm devastated but mad

[Bryon Williams]

Hello Amber1970,

Sorry, that you came here under these circumstances. There is little chances in getting your money back. As you know you need to report the incident to your police, bank, the police where the bank account/holder is located and http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx .

You can also help others by posting the emails especially the one where they requested the bank transfer. Include all the bank account information. Also post the email addresses used. Just remember to remove your personal information.

[Amber1970]

Have just found thet25 camper that Ida's scammed £4000 with on two other websites vw auto sleeper 1991 in Durham on the caravans for sale website£4000 and again listed as sold on e bay by vw southwest Devon campers kings ridge Devon can I check with e bay that ththe seller is legitimate

[Bryon Williams]

@amber1970, thank you. The following was sent to me from the original poster.

From: Evelyn < [email protected] >;
To: XXXXXX
Subject: Re: Message from someone interested in your advert
Sent: Tue, Jul 2, 2013 12:27:58 PM

Hello,
Its still for sale. Immaculate condition, no damages, nothing to worry about. All necessary documents available. My current location is Scotland due to my work commitments, If this is going to be a quick sale I will let it go for £4,000 delivered at my costs. Are you familiar to eBay? I will list the campervan eBay Motors for the £4,000 buy it now price and I will send you a link to my auction, so you can buy it immediate.
As soon as you will confirm the payment to eBay, I will proceed delivery without any additional costs for you.
In case you are not familiar with them, please read their Buyer Protection and will see that they cover 100% the transaction done through them up to £50,000. You will receive the campervan with all the documents. As you know eBay is the best company of online transactions. If indeed interested in it and have the funds, I will list it on eBay, as I have a 100% positive feedback with them.
Please let me know your decision.
Thank you

Evelyn

From: Evelyn < [email protected] >;
To: XXXXXXXX
Subject: Re: Message from someone interested in your advert
Sent: Tue, Jul 2, 2013 3:30:06 PM

Due to my location and since view is not an option I have requested personal support and I was approved to use Buyer Protection Program. Here is how the process works through the Buyer Protection Program:

- I make the private listing on eBay for you,
- you go and buy it through their website,
- you have to pay for the item to eBay to secure the funds,
- they confirm me that they received the funds,
- I deliver the van,
- you receive the van,
- they send me the money,

Everything is covered by eBay. I will get paid only after you confirm that you received the van in good order.
Let me know if this is acceptable. Thank you

Evelyn

Fake Scammer Seller:
Name: Evelyn Hudson
Address: 21 Stirling Street
Dundee
DD3 6PH
United Kingdom

From: eBay < [email protected] >;
To:
Subject: eBay Customer Support
Sent: Tue, Jul 2, 2013 4:20:33 PM

Dear Xxxx Xxx,

You can find attached the purchase invoice. You are currently involved in transaction Case ID MB12754 for item titled VW T25 AUTOSLEEPER CAMPER 2.1L AUTOMATIC, total amount involved is £4,000. Your Case ID MB12754 is a genuine eBay transaction approved for Buyer Protection Program and the amount of £4,000 is 100% insured. Seller details are verified along with transaction details, VW Autosleeper documents were verified before listing started, once we verified all documents and confirmed they are in good order we have approved the listing for buyer protection program. Seller is an eBay Member since: 22-Aug-06, all details are verified and confirmed by us.

You can proceed safe and secure with your purchase, a full refund/return policy is available just in case you do not accept the VW Autosleeper.

Thank you for being part of the eBay community.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/
______________________________
eBay

Payment must be submitted via Bank Transfer to the eBay Financing Center Agent Bank account in charge of this transaction. The payment will be secured until the Buyer receives, inspects and accepts the vehicle. Or, if it will be the case a full refund is given to the Buyer.


eBay Financing Center Agent*:

Beneficiary: Samira B.
Bank Name: Barclays
Account no: 13532518
Sort Code: 20-53-04
City: London
Country: United Kingdom
Bank Account Noted (BW)

*Bacs, CHAPS and Faster Payments are accepted.


Payment:

Invoice #MB12754

Subtotal: £4,000.00
Shipping(Free): £0.00

Deposit: £0.00
________________________________________
Total: £4,000.00

[TerranceBoyce]

Welcome to Scamwarners Amber1970.

As BW says, there's not much hope of getting your money back and the situation is a national scandal.

You are probably unaware that you are just one of hundreds of people who have been scammed this way and it's not just confined to the UK, but it's a massive failure on UK banking that is encouraging organised crime to channel funds through UK bank accounts and the banks do little more than blink like bewildered meerkats.

Other victims are contacting the FCA though, as I have mentioned elsewhere, that's just the banks wearing another hat and they have previously presided over every other major UK banking crash and scandal without noticing anything.

More effectively you could contact your MP because their existence depends on making their electorate happy and the scale of this fraud is such that the victims have a powerful voice that they can use to their benefit. I recommend they use it.

[TerranceBoyce]

Just to highlight the problem

Possibly the real ad

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-T25-AUTOSL ... 7675.l2557

£8,995

http://motoring.friday-ad.co.uk/worthin ... -YI322C71B

Same photos - £4,000

There are new victims every week and the authorities reaction to a national crime wave ? - they are silent, inert and indifferent.

[Llij]

There have been two recent ebay scam listings for a VW Campervan, 2007, bargain price of around £5.500k. The same pictures used, same registration. One in Scotland one in Chichester. The listing numbers are 231029496045 and 121157381900 (still active today). I have also see an older listing for this vehicle. The current seller is adilh1. The seller requires payment through eBay. Not cash. He says he will deliver. I can't show you the motorhome as he works 250 miles away!
Beware !!

Additional note:

I have just located the other listing on eBay from July 2013 where the camper sold for £15,100.00 to an lxxxr who had no previous feedback. The item number was 271239133140.
The registration number of the vehicle was MA407 AXD. The seller dgilly777.

15 Aug 2013 .... It has reappeared with seller Michaelsjones123. Item number111144168410,on eBay.

[TerranceBoyce]

This is a Romanian crime gang that has set up a massive network of fraudulent bank accounts in the UK and the authorities appear content to allow them to operate with impunity. If that's not true then the conclusion is that the UK authorities are helpless and impotent.

One thing I didn't realise is that when UK banks claim to be reducing fraud they only include frauds in which they lose money - ergo - the simplest way to reduce fraud is to make customers pay the cost which is happening more and more frequently.

If you lose money through a fraudulent bank account most frequently a bank won't be interested and the police will barely yawn in disinterest. Whether it will even recorded in crime statistics is a moot point.

[Llij]

They're at it again! On eBay today ... Same photo, yet again of VW Campervan, 6 speed, 2007. Classified ad £5.500. Item listing number 221279445675.
I have informed ebay but don't know whether or not they will remove the listing.
Hope nobody falls for it.
LLij

[theresa1983]

I've just fallen victim to the exact scam from this so called Evelyn. That's £4,250 i've just lost to these awful criminals. The banks have been useless and have failed to address this fraudence. I've been fobbed off by Barclays saying that as I'm not a customer, I can't do anthing about it due to data protection etc. I've reported it to the fraud action line but i don't feel very hopeful that anything will be done about this. Feel so embarrassed and humiliated that i have been so stupid! Action needs to be taken to stop these evil people!

[Dotti]

I'm sorry that you were scammed.

Although the odds are low, you need to go to your bank immediately and enlist their help in putting on some pressure to get the account frozen and any remaining funds reversed.

Also, could you forward the email in which you were given the bank account details (including the actual details) to me? My email address is in my signature, just remove the spaces in it. We have an additional means of reporting the account for action, at least to prevent it from being used again.

[theresa1983]

Hi, I've just sent you an email with the details...

the email address they have been using is [email protected]

and the sort code is 20-53-04, a Barclays account in London. Using the name Robert Koc

[TerranceBoyce]

As Dotti said, the odds of getting your money back are low but you SHOULD go through all the standard steps of reporting the fraud formally to the bank where the fraudster's account is held, and insist on getting their acknowledgement. The same with Action Fraud. Beyond that you can take it up with your MP and report your story here on the 'Watchdog' site.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006mg74

I'm a UK citizen and a retired bank employee and the current situation is scandalous. The UK must rank somewhere below Nigeria in banking security and most major global bank frauds are currently laundered through fraudulently opened UK bank accounts, making a laughing stock of the UK government's claim to have the world's most stringent money laundering legislation. It's quite pointless if implementation is lax and enforcement non-existent - and that's the current situation.

CIFAS - the UK financial industry's anti-fraud body have never even mentioned the problem, but then it is run by the banks and it would be a major embarrassment to own up to the ease with which criminals can open bank accounts in the UK.

CIFAS is a not-for-profit membership association representing the private and public sectors. CIFAS is dedicated to the prevention of fraud, including staff fraud, and the identification of financial and related crime.

I discovered one bank account opened in the name of 'you fool' in Romanian and, there appears to be a competition for the most outrageous one used, as I found another in a name I can't even mention here. If UK banks aren't already the laughing stock of the world, amongst the criminal world they certainly are.

The fact that one fraudster was recently reported in the papers to have opened in excess of 750 fraudulent bank accounts used in a major fraud only serves to highlight the scale of the problem that isn't even acknowledged by UK law enforcement. If I sound a little hyper on the subject I have to point out that just opening one fraudulent bank account gives you a marketable commodity in the criminal community. Without actually performing a financial fraud, opening 750 accounts fraudulently makes you close to a millionaire.

The loss to you personally theresa1983 will be a tragedy but it evidences a much greater risk facing UK banks and the economy. You simply can't run a banking system with such a large proportion of fraudulent accounts embedded in it. It is palpably a myth that UK money laundering legislation exists to prevent it.

[theresa1983]

Many thanks for you helpful advice Terrance. I have taken action by reporting it through Action Fraud and have an incident number. I've also complained to Barclays bank their lack of help yesterday in taking action to hold this account used for fraudulent activity. They now appear to have frozen the account so I'm holding back until the police do something to investigate this.

Seeing as it has happened to many people, certainly the banks need to take action to crack down on these fraudulent cases and the police need to investigate them to a higher degree too.

It's crazy that these sort of criminals can carry on and get away with it!

My next steps, like you say will be going to the MP and reporting it to that Watchdog site.

[TerranceBoyce]

What confounds me is why the banks appear not to be profiling scam accounts. This may be very politically incorrect but if we're being honest everyone does it from insurance companies to advertisers. It's part of modern day life and anyone believing it doesn't happen is deluded. One major purpose of store cards is to profile shoppers and 'profiling' is a part of crime investigation. Nationality is a part of that, but not necessarily the most significant part, and certainly not the only part.

I'm not saying that any one nationality should be targeted but it wouldn't be difficult to profile the accounts being used in fraud. With the knowledge of the accounts that have been used, they can be used as the profiling template. I'm not giving away state secrets, but perhaps I'm providing educational guidance to some banks who appear not to understand how it works.

Assessing account risk is part of the account opening process and raising a flag on an account that is high risk ought to be automatic, and that could raise extra triggers, such as large incoming payments. If that happens on an account where the person hasn't given any evidence of employment, just placing a hold on it would be common sense.

I get the feeling that banks are happy to watch over fraud as long as they don't bear the cost, and that's where their behaviour is morally unacceptable. Do I sound like an old-fashioned banker ?

You might also be interested in another forum.

http://www.legalbeagles.info/forums/sho ... s-Accounts

You are not alone in being a victim of this scam.