question for my car sell

[leyon]

Hi, every one.

I try to sell my car at local free website. This guy is willing to buy and pay me by paypal. I havenot have a paypal account and set up one for this. Then I received the confirmation e-mail from paypal as following.




You have received a PayPal Payment of £3,250.00 GBP from *******

A temporary hold has been placed on this transaction!


As mentioned in the receipt of Payment and as per New PayPal Payment policy, we have fully debited the total amount (above) from the buyer's account which includes the buyer's shipper's pick up fees.


In order to complete this transaction and get the funds approved in your account. We advice you go to nearest Western Union Office, and send the £550.00 GBP to the shipping agent and send us a Scanned Copy/Photograph of your Western Union Transaction Receipt (in .JPG Format).

NOTE: This is important as a security measure to ensure safety of this transaction.

Please, find below the name and address of the Transport Agent where the Funds would be sent via Western Union Money Transfer.

Click Here Locate Nearest Western Union Office


Transport Company UAB"Kuršiu Linija"


Address: Paul Andersen,
#112, Moarville Road, Speke,
Liverpool, L70 1AB
United Kingdom



Address Status: Confirmed






does anyone know this shipping company? is this a scam?

thank for your help.

[Chris Fuller]

Hello leyon, and welcome to ScamWarners.

Yes, that is a scam. The email supposedly from PayPal in fake. The same 112 Moarville Road address has been used in another scam, here:

http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewto ... f=9&t=7285

You may also like to have a look at this:

http://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewto ... =6&p=20776

This scam is pretending to use the same Transport Company, and also gives you further examples of emails from scammers pretending to be interested in buying cars, and their fake PayPal emails.

I'm glad that you were suspicious about this.

[leyon]

thanks for the reply.

Now I post the e-mail address of this person and hope it be useful for others. By the way, how can can identify whether the e-mail is from paypal? is it safe to use paypal for online shopping or selling things?

Funds has been transferred Dean Hedges to you -
From: Dean Hedges <[email protected]>Hide .
Date:Mon, 19 Apr 2010 13:35.


Hi ,

I want to get you informed that I have transferred the funds to your account through paypal automobile payment service (shipping charges included), funds has now been debited from my account I have confirmation from paypal that you are to transfer the agent fee through western union and email them with the western union scan receipt before the funds can be credited into your account.

Here is the name and address of my shipping agent to transfer the money.

Name : Paul Andersen
Address: #112, Moarville Road, Speke,
Liverpool, L70 1AB
United Kingdom

Hope to read back from you soon.
Dean.



Following are the e-mail I received from paypal.

Important Information on how to complete your recent transaction (Transaction ID: 5X********)
'From [email protected]" <[email protected]>
This email confirms that you have received an Instant payment of £3,250.00 GBP from Dean Hedges ([email protected]) via PayPal MERCHANDISE Payment Service.

View the "NOTE" of this pending transaction below



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Payment Details
Merchandise Amount: £2,700.00 GBP


Agent Charges:

Taxes and Insurance:

Total:

£550.00 GBP


£0.00 GBP


£3,250.00 GBP


Transaction Id: 5X47***



Quantity:
1


AUTO Title: Vauxhall










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Transport Company: UAB"Kuršiu Linija"



Address:
UAB"Kuršiu Linija"
c/o Paul Andersen,
#112, Moarville Road, Speke,
Liverpool, L70 1AB
United Kingdom





Address Status: Confirmed




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NOTE: This is to confirm to you that the said amount has been successfully transferred by Dean Hedges and has been deducted from his PayPal account,which is ready to be credited into your account,been that this Payment has been subjected to be a Payment for an MERCHANDISE purchased from you we reserve the right to make sure this transaction is safe and secured also to verify the legitimacy level on this transaction because of the high sum of funds involved.


The above sum has included the transport charges and taxes as we and the Transport Company quoted for the buyer (as per PayPal MERCHANDISE PAYMENT POLICY). You will receive a Message from the PayPal Customer Verification Department Shortly informing you on how to send the shipping charges and taxes to the transport company with the above details as soon as possible.


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You may contact the PayPal Customer Verification Department and Quote the Above Transaction ID for quick recognition of this transaction at [email protected]

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Sincerely,
PayPal
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PayPal Email ID PP307

[Suzie]

Hi there - just wanted to thank you for the info in this forum - saved us some pain so I thought I'd let you know about our experience.

We had a bike listed on ebay for sale and we had an enquiry from a buyer based in the UK wanting to buy immediately for a family member. We sussed out the comments for this ebay buyer and all seemed good.

The buyer wanted us to communicate with them through their own email address. They offered us much more than we wanted as a minimum price for the item and they wanted to pay through PayPal. They asked for us to remove the item from ebay and generate an invoice through our PayPal account. We got an email that looked like it was from PayPal saying that there was a "pending" payment of $3100 to be paid into our account once we passed on the extra amount of $2100 for "shipping costs" to be paid through Western Union to the shipping company UAB "Kuršiu Linija" which we had to pay before the transfer of their funds into our PayPal account would be completed. We contacted PayPal to verify this and also sussed out UAB "Kuršiu Linija" on google and came across the scamwarners reference to a scam that in every way mimicked what had happened to us. We got an email back from Ebay saying it was a phishing scam - and we immediately cancelled the PayPal invoice and contacted the buyer saying we were very disappointed and that if they wanted the item they could buy it through ebay as we had re-listed it, they'd wasted our time but thanks for the education.

Discussions with PayPal
customer subject: Would someone normally try to pay more money than a
Paypal invoice asks for?
customer message: Transaction ID: '5X472815E1267414M'
Additional Information: 'Hello

I have just made a sale through PayPal for a motorbike worth $1000 AUD
which I created an invoice for. The buyer has made a transaction of
$#### ($#### of which is supposed to be for shipping) that is "pending".
I have received an email saying that my account will be credited once I
have forwarded payment to the shipping company.
I have sent the same email to the address in the email -
[email protected]
I'm confused about this can you explain it to me?'

Dear xxxxxx,
Thank you for contacting PayPal, my name is Yhanie and I am happy to
assist you today.
Mx xxxxxx, please be advised that PayPal will never ask you to send
the tracking number of a posted item before receiving a payment into
your PayPal account. Based on the information you have provided, I can
say that you are being scammed.
I checked your account and I was not able to see any pending payments to
be credited to your account even if you supply us with a tracking
number. All payments are recorded in the History page of your PayPal
account. Having said that, I would suggest that you forward the emails
you received from the person without modifying it to [email protected]
for records purposes.
Please let me know if you need further assistance.
Sincerely,
Yhanie
PayPal Resolution Services
PayPal, an eBay Company

xxxxxx to [email protected]
show details Apr 24 (1 day ago)
Hi
I think I've got a scammer here.
cheers

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:24 PM
Subject: Notification of An Instant Merchandise Payment Received from John James (Transaction ID: 5X472815E1267414M)
To: xxxxxx

Dear xxxxxx,
This email confirms that you have received an Instant payment of $3,100.00 AUD from John James ([email protected]) via PayPal MERCHANDISE Payment Service.

View the "NOTE" of this pending transaction below

Payment Details

Merchandise Amount:
$1,000.00 AUD

Agent Charges:
Taxes and Insurance:

Total:
$2,100.00 AUD

$0.00 AUD

$3,100.00 AUD

Transaction Id:
5X472815E1267414M

Quantity:
1

Merchandise Title:
Honda XR 80R 91 BIKE

Transport Company: UAB"Kuršiu Linija"

Name: Eric Gary,
Add: 189 Mangold Way,Erith
City: Kent,
Post Code: DA18 4DD,
Country: United Kingdom.
Address Status:
Confirmed
NOTE: This is to confirm to you that the said amount has been successfully transferred by John James and has been deducted from his PayPal account,which is ready to be credited into your account,been that this Payment has been subjected to be a Payment for an MERCHANDISE purchased from you, we reserve the right to make sure this transaction is safe and secured also to verify the legitimacy level on this transaction because of the high sum of funds involved.
The above sum includes the charges of the shipping company and taxes.(as per PayPal MERCHANDISE PAYMENT POLICY). You will receive a Message from the PayPal Customer Verification Department Shortly informing you on how to send the shipping charges and taxes to the transport company to the above details as soon as possible.
You may click here to contact the PayPal Customer Verification Department and Quote the Above Transaction ID for quick recognition of this transaction.
Sincerely,
PayPal

from [email protected] <[email protected]>
to xxxxxx
date Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:43 AM
subject RE: Fwd: Notification of An Instant Merchandise Payment Received from John James (Transaction ID: 5X472815E1267414M) (KMM7162218I15977L0KM)

Hello xxxxxx,
Thanks for forwarding that suspicious-looking email. You're right - it
was a phishing attempt, and we're working on stopping the fraud. By
reporting the problem, you've made a difference!
Identity thieves try to trick you into revealing your password or other
personal information through phishing emails and fake websites. To learn
more about online safety, click "Security Center" on any PayPal webpage.
Every email counts. When you forward suspicious-looking emails to
[email protected], you help keep yourself and others safe from identity
theft.
Your account security is very important to us, so we appreciate your
extra effort.
Thanks,
PayPal

Removed personal details - CF

[David Jansen]

^Welcome.

I'm glad you got suspicious and did some research and found out you were being scammed. Luckily no harm done. And you did right by reporting the phishing attempt. With these postings of scams, it seems that using paypall is risky, but when dealing with genuine people it isn't. Just be aware of scammers that want to buy your item in a hurry and want to pay more then you're asking. If you're in doubt, go to the paypall website and get in touch with the people there.

[Albert]

Hi Folks,

I just had the same thing happen whilst trying to sell a item on Gumtree. Hope this helps others:

Here are the buyers details:

Subject: AYMENT SENT FOR YOUR SPEAKERS
From: mickey mcfarlin <[email protected]>
To: Removed

Hello,
I want you to take it to your notice that, the payment confirmation receipt has sent to me from PayPal .. I hope you will have got your payment confirmation from PayPal by now . Pl's make sure you wrap this item very well for safety purpose .Pl's i really prefer NEXT DAY.
Here is the shipping address below,

Name: MR FAISA ARTISO
Address: 29 kingsmill roda,
dagenham
City: london
Post Code: RM95EH
Country: United Kingdom

It's great transacting biz with you
My Regards.

Thanks.


And the dodgy PayPal email:

Subject: PayPal Payment Notification For Item Purchased
From:
"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: Removed

PayPal

Dear Removed,

PayPal would like to inform you that funds have been deducted from our client's Mickey Mcfarlin account but can only be credited into your PayPal account once the shipment tracking number has been sent to our database administrator for verification at [email protected]

This action is not a request from our client but a security measure we are taking to ensure and protect both parties involved in this transaction.

We would want you to have the item mailed as requested and email us with the shipment tracking number so that we can verify it so that your account can be credited.

PayPal is sorry for any inconvenience this might have caused you.

PayPal International.



Cheers,

Albert

[Dotti]

Thank you for posting this Albert!

As Paypal themselves made clear, they do not have any process by which they hold money pending shipping confirmation (or anything else for that matter). Paypal transactions are instant--if someone pays you by paypal the money is immediately transferred from their account to yours.

In addition, all paypal emails come from addresses that end with @paypal.com Accountant.com email addresses are free email addresses from mail.com. And of course, genuine paypal emails don't have such lousy grammar!

[Albert]

Totally agree, this post about the car sell was a confirmation for me that something was definately wrong.

The problem is for most people, if a scammer offers the asking price, is keen to pay and receive the item, red mist comes down and most sellers will get the item dispatched. The old addage, show me the money, still applies as much as ever, even with a lot of good allegedly safe money transfer systems around these days.

[VickieLauren]

Hi Folks,

I just had the same thing happen whilst trying to sell a item on Gumtree. Hope this helps others:

Here are the buyers details:

Subject: AYMENT SENT FOR YOUR SPEAKERS
From: mickey mcfarlin <[email protected]>
To: Removed

Hello,
I want you to take it to your notice that, the payment confirmation receipt has sent to me from PayPal .. I hope you will have got your payment confirmation from PayPal by now . Pl's make sure you wrap this item very well for safety purpose .Pl's i really prefer NEXT DAY.
Here is the shipping address below,

Name: MR FAISA ARTISO
Address: 29 kingsmill roda,
dagenham
City: london
Post Code: RM95EH
Country: United Kingdom

It's great transacting biz with you
My Regards.

Thanks.

Albert

I had this [email protected] email me as a reply on Gumtree.com, wanting me to send the instruments I was selling to him in Essex, and he would send me an extra £50 to do it. I looked the email address up online and this came up, so luckily I said no!
Thanks

[Acidic05]

Hey Ladies/Gents

Another attempt from "Mickey McFarlin" the Music Thief lol. Suspected from the first reply email as it was from an Australian email address??...But yeah kinda funny caught him the act. So I emailed him his own address, the fake paypal notice he was going to send me and told him he was a rubbish scammer.

He offered the extra £50 for delivery as he has done previously.

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I was selling home recording studio equipment on Gumtree and got a reply from him:

From: [email protected] on behalf of [email protected]
Sent: 25 May 2010 14:54:14
To: Removed

Hi there xxxx, you have received a reply to your Gumtree posting "COMPLETE HOME RECORDING STUDIO - ALL YOU NEED TO RECORD" (ad# 59156693) from [email protected]

Want more responses? Click here to Feature your ad and go to the top of listings.

Here's your message:

still available for sale???

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FOLLOWING EMAIL:

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From: mickey mcfarlin ([email protected])
Sent: 25 May 2010 15:19:26
To: Removed

Hello,
can you ship to this Post-Code RM95EH in United Kingdom, and i will be making your payment via PayPal....send me your paypal email address and i will be offering 50£ for the shipment Next Day Delivery, so that i can make the payment as soon as possible

Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

--- On Tue, 5/25/10, xxxxx <xxxx@hotmail> wrote:

From: Removed

Subject: RE: Reply to your ad: COMPLETE HOME RECORDING STUDIO - ALL YOU NEED TO RECORD

To: [email protected]

Date: Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 10:11 AM

Hey,
The equipment is still available.

Kind Regards


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Off the first email I did a search and found this forum, so thank you guys very much for confirming my suspicions. Great job you are doing here, especially for those unsuspecting victims that use the internet.

Hope this helps.

[Chris Fuller]

Welcome to ScamWarners, and thank you for posting further information about this scammer. That will help other people who, like yourself, run a search regarding emails they have received.

I've removed what looked like your real name, and your email address, from your post - just for your own online security.

[baleno77]

I have just completed the payment for the (Car) and you should have received a confirmation email from paypal in regards to the payment.If you could please re-send me the address to where i will send the courier company to pick up the ( Car ) so that i can provide them with it.

As you may have noticed I have made an additional payment on top of all the other charges, the sum of €1,600. This needs to be sent to the courier company which can easily be done through Western Union Money Transfer. This is their requested form of payment when it comes to dealing with international exchanges.Upon receiving the payment they will arrange to pick up the (Car) within the next 48 hours.They will probably call you and choose the date the pick up will be made,Which reminds me if you could also send me your contact number again i will forward it on to them so they can arrange a convenient pick up time.

The payment will have to be sent in cash which you will need to do, however as you see you will be reimbursed as soon as the funds will clear through paypal.

The amount that I have just transferred to you is on hold through paypal as they need the Western Union receipt to confirm the courier company has been paid. Once they received that then the payment will be cleared into your paypal account. Just to reassure you that he amount has already left my account and simply being held by Paypal until the transaction is completed successfully.

Similar scam i have to report from today, e-mail of the spammer is:
[email protected]
and
[email protected]


The information you need in order to complete the payment to Western Union Money Transfer is listed below:

Name : Micheal steven
Address : 235 Greenfield Parkway,
City : Liverpool
Zip Code : L3 3DB
Country : United Kingdom.

Looking forward to finally receiving the (item), Thanks for the understanding and co-operating in the matter.All the other paperwork will be completed by the pick-up agent.Please transfer the money as soon as possible so that we can arrange everything without delay.(dont forget I need the pick-up address and also if you could provide me with your phone number too that will be great)Nice doing business with you. Look forward to hearing from you soon and completing our deal.

Thanks,
Kind regards

[k4rk]

Similar scam i have to report from today, e-mail of the spammer is:
[email protected]
and
[email protected]

The information you need in order to complete the payment to Western Union Money Transfer is listed below:

Name : Micheal steven
Address : 235 Greenfield Parkway,
City : Liverpool
Zip Code : L3 3DB
Country : United Kingdom.

Looking forward to finally receiving the (item), Thanks for the understanding and co-operating in the matter.All the other paperwork will be completed by the pick-up agent.Please transfer the money as soon as possible so that we can arrange everything without delay.(dont forget I need the pick-up address and also if you could provide me with your phone number too that will be great)Nice doing business with you. Look forward to hearing from you soon and completing our deal.

I just received the same email from the same adress only now the guy claimed his name was luis and also sent me an ID when i requested it!! these guys are outrageous!

Beware even if ID proof is sent!

[k4rk]

I received this suspicious email from [email protected] :

Hello Seller,

Thanks for your response... I want to purchase your posted AD for my
Son as a Birthday gift and am ready to pay right away through PayPal,
why i want to use PayPal is because they are the most fastest and well
secured for online transaction.. For quick business, i want you to
email me with your PayPal account email, name and your firm price so
i can send the instant payment for you now.

If you don't have a paypal account, kindly log in to www.paypal.com
and try and create a new account with PayPal now, its very easy save
and fast. I will also need more pics in your next email.

I will be waiting for your PayPal account email and name for the
instant payment to commence fast.

Thanks very much.
Teni.

Apparently a fraud. beware of this email also

[Botelhopedro]

Hello, i was also trying to sell my car online and these are the e-mails i got, they are all scam since i have contacted paypal and the response was it was a scam. Here are all the e-mails i received:

first e-mail i received:

PayPal Instant Payment Received from Blazquez Matinez Luis Vicente(Transaction ID: 4WR6072127779652U)?
18-07-2012
Responder ?
[email protected] Adicionar aos contactos

Para [email protected]

You've received an instant payment


Dear [email protected],


This e-Mail confirms that you have received an Instant payment of €6,250.00 EUR from Blazquez Matinez Luis Vicente via PayPal MERCHANDISE Payment Service.


Reversals : This method of payment can not be reversed.


Status : Pending - Transport Company Awaiting Payment.





View the details of this pending transaction below



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Summary of this transaction



Sent From

Blazquez Matinez Luis Vicente



[email protected]



Sent to

[email protected]








Transaction ID

4WR6072127779652U



Merchandise Amount

€4,250.00 EUR



Transport Charges

Total Amount

Merchandise Title


€2,000.00 EUR

€6,250.00 EUR

Goods - Purchased
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Transport Company: " COURIER EXCHANGE "
Courier Details:

Name : Greg Fricke
Address: 235 Greenfield Parkway,
City: Liverpool
Post Code: L3 3DB
Country: United Kingdom.
Address Status:
Confirmed
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NOTE: This is to confirm to you that the mentioned amount has been successfully transferred by the Sender and been deducted from his Account which is ready to be credited into your account and this Payment has been subjected to be a Payment for a MERCHANDISE purchased from you, we reserve the right to make sure this transaction is 100% Safe and Secured also to verify the legitimacy level on this transaction.

The above sum includes the transport charges and taxes as we and the Transport Company quoted for the buyer (as per PayPal MERCHANDISE PAYMENT POLICY). You will receive a Message from the PayPal Customer Verification Department Shortly informing you on how to send the Transport Fares and Taxes to the transport company with the above Courier details as soon as possible.



You may contact PayPal customer service by Clicking Here or reply directly to this email by using the
reply button in your e-Mail Box and Quote the Above Transaction ID for quick recognition of this transaction.

Copyright © 2012 PayPal, Inc. All rights reserved.

PayPal Email ID PP307

second e-mail:

Important Information On How to Complete Your Recent Transaction (Transaction ID: 4WR6072127779652U)?

18-07-2012


Responder ?
[email protected]


Adicionar aos contactos
Para [email protected]
Hello [email protected],


You have received a PayPal Payment of €6,250.00 EUR from Blazquez Matinez Luis Vicente ([email protected])

We've placed a temporary hold on the funds of this transaction



As mentioned in the receipt of Payment and as per New PayPal Payment policy, we have fully debited the total amount (above) from the buyer's account which included the Transport/Delivery Charges (Courier Exchange Logistics).


In order to complete this transaction and get the funds approved in your account. We advice you go to nearest Western Union Office, and send the excess sum of €2,000.00 EUR to the Transport Agent and send us a Scanned Copy/Photograph of your Western Union Transaction Receipt (in .JPG Format).

NOTE: This is important as a security measure to ensure safety of this transaction. And also that the shipper address is changed.

Please, find below the name and address of the Transport Agent where the Funds would be sent via Western Union Money Transfer.

Click Here Locate Nearest Western Union Office.
Transport Company: " COURIER EXCHANGE "

Name : Greg Fricke
Address : 235 Greenfield Parkway,
City : Liverpool
Postal Code : L3 3DB
Country : United Kingdom.

Address Status:
Confirmed
Your Account will be credited accordingly upon the receipt of details requested. Should either be sent in JPG format or send type details as:

(1) Sender's Name;
(2) Receiver's Name;
(3) MTCN;
(4) Amount Sent;
(5) Western Union Receipt


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You may contact PayPal customer service by Clicking Here or reply to this message directly using the reply button in your email to submit the required information and include either transaction ID or reference number (PP307) quick recognition of this transaction.

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Sincerely,

The PayPal Team

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PayPal Email ID PP307

third e-mail:

Be Rest Assured - Awaiting Western Union Details(Transaction ID: 4WR6072127779652U)?

19-07-2012
Responder ?


[email protected] Adicionar aos contactos

Para [email protected]

Hello [email protected],

Thank you for contacting us regarding this transaction. We want you to try your best to classify the payment of the insurance fee to the shipper address today, as requested so that the transaction can be completed as soon as possible,so we would like you to proceed with the transfer right away now because the transaction can not be broken, recalled or canceled by the recipient and no other way to proceed with the transaction as a security measure to protect both the seller and buyer. We guarantee that you have 100% guarantee and security that you will receive your money as soon as the Western Union information of the insurance fee is received from you. We guarantee you that this is a secure transaction and approved and your account will be credited with the total amount received,immediately we receive the Western Union's details.



You can contact us anytime if you have any question (s) about this transaction. We want you to understand that the payment can not be reversed or canceled or may be divided, so, I assure you that you are 100% safe to do this transaction. Again make sure you get your money, after the Western Union information is received from you for verification.

Note: You should not send the information to Western Union to the buyer, the Western Union Information should be sent directly to us for verification and then you can send the information to the buyer after your money is released to your account . We waiting to be read from the delay.

Thank you,
The PayPal Team


Be alert to this kind of scams, since these guys change the names and adresses quickly. I was lucky i did not fall into paying the money before i certified with paypal if it was secure to do it or else i would have been with 2000€ less in my account. hope this helps

Pedro Botelho